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re: SCOTUS will not fast track Jack Smith’s bull shite case against DJT.

Posted on 12/24/23 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 4:42 pm to
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There is no reason whatsoever to go there in a ruling this important

What? That makes no sense. There is no purpose in having some perfunctory decision by an appellate court in this instance. Literally nothing the circuit court of appeals does matters now or ever will matter in any way.

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Setting a multi-century precedent is not something which should result from a short-circuited process.

The decision of whether or not Trump is immune from the charges has NOTHING to do with timing or the merits of Smith’s charges.

It’s a threshold issue.
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 4:45 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 4:45 pm to
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The decision of whether or not Trump is immune from the charges has NOTHING to do with timing or the merits of Smith’s charges.

It’s a threshold issue.

He refuses to understand this.

The Supreme Court may still rule before the election also.

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That makes no sense. There is no purpose in having some perfunctory decision by an appellate court in this instance. Literally nothing the circuit court of appeals does matters now or ever will matter in any way.

He refuses to understand this, too.

Only academics and hyper partisans will care
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 5:20 pm to
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The decision of whether or not Trump is immune from the charges has NOTHING to do with timing or the merits of Smith’s charges.
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The timing issue, and choice of when to bring the case, was Smith's. Not Trump's. The timing was chosen by Smith to maximize political damage to Trump.

Accordingly, Smith decided to bring J6 to court >3yrs after it occurred ... in the midst of the 2024 election season, just vlike his other crap cases. Meaning, if he just managed ONE guilty verdict in 90+ counts, Trump would not have time for an appeal and overturn. ONE bullshite conviction, even by an extremely biased DC jury, even with legally assured reversal on appeal, could throw the POTUS election. That was Smith's plan. He gambled. It is what it is.

Play stupid games ... win stupid prizes.
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 5:51 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 5:33 pm to
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The Supreme Court may still rule before the election also.
If that is their normal course, so be it. Distill away the Jack Smith politics, and whatever SCOTUS decision is rendered will have less of an associated Smith stench.

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Only academics and hyper partisans will care
Odd carve out. Given your assertions, why would anyone other than JeffToobin care about "intermediate appellate masturbation"?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 5:45 pm to
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Given your assertions, why would anyone other than JeffToobin care about "intermediate appellate masturbation"?

Once SCOTUS rules, they won't.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 5:47 pm to
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Once SCOTUS rules, they won't.
Ah ... we're evolving.
Now not even "academics and hyper partisans will care"?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 5:52 pm to
Are appellate courts useless now? Finally, we can break that one up in the West.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 6:13 pm to
You and that other tool shed are right.

This is definitely bad for Trump. It was a brilliant move by Smith to go around DC circuit and get bitched slapped by SCOTUS.
Posted by Bayoutigre
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:04 pm to
they will say he has no standing
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:43 pm to
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Now not even "academics and hyper partisans will care"?

You gave an absurd example, which I thought included these. If your example didn't, then add them

And the hyper-partisans likely won't care after the USSC ruling because they'll choose sides based on that, now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:43 pm to
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You and that other tool shed are right.

This is definitely bad for Trump. It was a brilliant move by Smith

Who is talking in terms of good/bad for Trump/Smith?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:49 pm to
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You gave an absurd example
What example are you talking about?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:17 pm to
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What example are you talking about?


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why would anyone other than JeffToobin


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Only academics and hyper partisans will care
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 9:14 pm to
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I would imagine there are 6-7 figures of registered Republicans who would argue that the voters need to have the ability to make their choice after the cases play out.

I understand what you're saying, but I think there are a ton of voters who want these cases to play out for clarity
Apparently you don’t. Because I think those cases should be played out before the election. But I also realize that unless something drastic comes to light, all of them so far are weak bullisht.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 1:50 am to
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His having time to prepare a merits defense to the charges has absolutely nothing to do with whether he is immune from being charged at all, which is what the present SCOTUS issue concerns.


Agreed. However, fast tracking the entire case does.
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