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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:07 pm to L.A.
quote:According to the case its true.
I haven't read this whole thread, but WTF, is that true? Or are you using hyperbole to make a point?
quote:Its a court case so either side could be exaggerating
Lawyers for Mr. Mullins and Mr. Craig claim that Mr. Phillips’ argument is specious because he regularly bakes his famous “Vagina Cake,” and “Clitoris Eclairs” for bachelorette parties, which proves he’s actually discriminating against their gay clients based on sexual orientation.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:09 pm to Tigerdev
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:14 pm to Tigerdev
quote:I don't think he should be forced to bake cakes he doesn't want to bake (nor should anyone else be forced, for that matter), but if that's true then for me his whole argument about his devout Christian values goes out the window. I don't know any devout Christians who would condone baking vagina cakes. Isn't his argument that he's trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage? With a vagina cake? Please.
Lawyers for Mr. Mullins and Mr. Craig claim that Mr. Phillips’ argument is specious because he regularly bakes his famous “Vagina Cake,” and “Clitoris Eclairs” for bachelorette p
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:18 pm to 14&Counting
The guy is such a raging hypocrite that it's laughable, BUT he should have the right to be. Nobody should be able to tell a private business who they have to serve.
Besides, most of the time a business that openly refuses service to a group of people will not survive in this day and age. There are exceptions when it comes to niche businesses but generally speaking it's not a sustainable practice.
Besides, most of the time a business that openly refuses service to a group of people will not survive in this day and age. There are exceptions when it comes to niche businesses but generally speaking it's not a sustainable practice.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:18 pm to L.A.
quote:I tend to agree...Plus his own statements on the matter state clearly that his motives for refusing service have to do with the customer's homosexuality. This brings it into civil rights territory for me...
sn't his argument that he's trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage? With a vagina cake? Please.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:21 pm to L.A.
quote:
I don't think he should be forced to bake cakes he doesn't want to bake (nor should anyone else be forced, for that matter), but if that's true then for me his whole argument about his devout Christian values goes out the window. I don't know any devout Christians who would condone baking vagina cakes. Isn't his argument that he's trying to uphold the sanctity of marriage? With a vagina cake? Please.
If you dig deep enough, it's usually the case with these stories. At the end of the day the angry liberals are usually right in these cases in practice (though not in principle). It's rarely a genuine moral dilemma.
But again, it doesn't change things in principle. He should be allowed to tell any customer he so chooses to piss off.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:30 pm to Tigerdev
Bs. Refusal because of a homosexual marriage celebration.
No different if 2 straight people wanted a gay wedding cake for their sister.
Its the wedding part. The gay wedding part.
Gay birthdays? Fine.
No different if 2 straight people wanted a gay wedding cake for their sister.
Its the wedding part. The gay wedding part.
Gay birthdays? Fine.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:34 pm to crazyatthecamp
Any business should be able to refuse any service to any person for any reason.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:35 pm to Dale51
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Actually, it's worse than that. The bakers agreed to sell them a stock wedding cake..no problem
Those homos were looking to stir up trouble. They’ll get theirs.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:48 pm to Tigerdev
But don't privately owned businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone?
That's how many of these bars operate. They have a sign prominently displayed saying this very thing.
What's the difference here?
That's how many of these bars operate. They have a sign prominently displayed saying this very thing.
What's the difference here?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:03 pm to Perfect Circle
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But don't privately owned businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone? That's how many of these bars operate. They have a sign prominently displayed saying this very thing. What's the difference here?
Yes, a business owner can refuse to accommodate anyone, without reason. However, and it's a big however, he cannot consistently refuse to serve customers from a group, whether it's a protected group or not. That is discrimination.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:23 pm to Tigerdev
quote:
Nope. Just refusing to return to it.
I doubt you ever left it. Try to learn something new.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:26 pm to saint tiger225
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Gay couple should have just went to another store. That's the beauty of our country.
Wonder why they didn't?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:29 pm to Tigerdev
You have no right to a cake. Schools, yeah. Cake? Hell no. Go to another gay friendly baker.
Hell, I bet half of bakers are gay AF.
Hell, I bet half of bakers are gay AF.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:29 pm to Loserman
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Too bad our country has fallen to the point that a case like this is even necessary
I know, right? Just bake the fricking cake.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:32 pm to mattgr1983
Bake your own cake for your soon to be husband.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:36 pm to Perfect Circle
Negative. Civil Rights Act of 1964...private businesses cannot refuse service on the basis of race, religion etc.
So what you posted is inaccurate in terms of the statement "businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone"...they cant if its on the basis of something covered by civil rights act
So what you posted is inaccurate in terms of the statement "businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone"...they cant if its on the basis of something covered by civil rights act
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:36 pm to roadGator
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Bake your own cake for your soon to be husband.
Oh, I get it. I must be gay because I think discrimination should be illegal.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:37 pm to mattgr1983
No. You are not a woman?
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