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SCOTUS rules on Oklahoma case
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:56 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:56 am
Basically in a 5-4 decision, they ruled :
"Not only does the Court discover a Creek reservation that spans three million acres and includes most of the city of Tulsa, but the Court’s reasoning portends that there are four more such reservations in Oklahoma. The rediscovered reservations encompass the entire eastern half of the State — 19 million acres that are home to 1.8 million people, only 10%–15% of whom are Indians," he wrote.
So that just got a little more complicated.
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"Not only does the Court discover a Creek reservation that spans three million acres and includes most of the city of Tulsa, but the Court’s reasoning portends that there are four more such reservations in Oklahoma. The rediscovered reservations encompass the entire eastern half of the State — 19 million acres that are home to 1.8 million people, only 10%–15% of whom are Indians," he wrote.
So that just got a little more complicated.
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This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 12:45 pm
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:59 am to Jjdoc
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The rediscovered reservations encompass the entire eastern half of the State — 19 million acres that are home to 1.8 million people, only 10%–15% of whom are Indians
Bad news for the indians. The reservation is a prime example of what happens when government gives you things. I understand the genesis of the project, but eventually, you have to assimilate and strike out on your own.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:01 pm to BugAC
Its pretty striking as a ruling.
I'm not sure how that territory will be governed.
I'm not sure how that territory will be governed.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:01 pm to Jjdoc
So what happens? Any white people there now are forcibly moved to the other side of the state in a Jeep Cherokee Trail Of Tears?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:02 pm to Jjdoc
We gave them shitty land to start with and now they are going to get more shitty land?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:02 pm to Jjdoc
Does this now Null/Void the Louisiana Purchase?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:02 pm to teke184
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So what happens? Any white people there now are forcibly moved to the other side of the state in a Jeep Cherokee Trail Of Tears?
Oklahoma residents should qualify en masse, for squatters rights.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:04 pm to Jjdoc
We should push for it to be another state. More senators for convservatives.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:04 pm to BugAC
Well, I think one could easily claim habitation and improvements made on the land for at least 5 years in most cases.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:05 pm to Jjdoc
City of Tulsa is now governed by tribal leaders. Maybe the new leaders can made a deal with the UN or China to come in and 'help out with things'.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:05 pm to LB84
Funny side effect for that would be to make the song “Okie From Muskogee” outdated since that is in the vicinity of Tulsa.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:06 pm to Jjdoc
Sooners Violated the treaties made between the United States and Indian Tribes.
SCOTUS correctly decided that heinous decision today.
SCOTUS correctly decided that heinous decision today.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:06 pm to BugAC
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Bad news for the indians. The reservation is a prime example of what happens when government gives you things. I understand the genesis of the project, but eventually, you have to assimilate and strike out on your own.
The Indians who were here before us have to assimilate to us after we gave this land to them?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
They don’t HAVE to assimilate. But living on tribal land at the chief’s discretion certainly kills a lot of innovation and investment.
Go out into states like Arizona and New Mexico. You can tell where private land ends and reservations begin because it looks like your watch just got set back 100 years.
Go out into states like Arizona and New Mexico. You can tell where private land ends and reservations begin because it looks like your watch just got set back 100 years.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:08 pm to Jjdoc
????
Does this ruling mean all of eastern Oklahoma now belongs to the indians? Article sounded like that isn't the case.
Does this ruling mean all of eastern Oklahoma now belongs to the indians? Article sounded like that isn't the case.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:10 pm to Jjdoc
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I'm not sure how that territory will be governed.
A casino on every corner... slots in all the convenience stores...
Personally, I think we should carve out the rest of the State of Oklahoma for the black folks... call it "New Wakanda" and watch as the Indians and black folk fight it out on border disputes...
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:10 pm to Jjdoc
White people about to get taxed
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:11 pm to Jjdoc
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SCOTUS rules that Oklahoma is to be split in half
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So that just got a little more complicated.
Not really, at all. The ruling is not a broad territorial or sovereignty determination. It applies only within the context of the Major Crimes Act, meaning that certain crimes committed in that area by Native Americans are subject to federal and not state prosecution.
Oklahoma is not giving control of Tulsa over to the Cherokee Nation.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:12 pm to MrLarson
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We gave them shitty land to start with and now they are going to get more shitty land?
Until they find Uranium under it. Then they force them to move again.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:12 pm to Jjdoc
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I'm not sure how that territory will be governed.
Then you clearly have no idea what the actual issues were in the case. It has nothing to do with the governance of the area in question.
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