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SCOTUS Rules 9-0 States Can Bind Faithless Electors
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:17 am
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:17 am
Big win for the Electoral College!
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:17 am to CU_Tigers4life
Is it?
quote:Can, but will they?
Can Bind
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:18 am to CU_Tigers4life
Darth Bader is a Nazi now?
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:20 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Big win for the Electoral College!
Also a win for those pushing the popular vote compact. An elector can now be compelled, under pain of penalty, to vote for someone who doesn't win their state.
A state legislature can now basically compel electors to vote for whoever the legislature wants.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:24 am to CU_Tigers4life
quote:The democrats wanted Cally and NYCity deciding the election.
The decision was unanimous from the high court and a blow to a Democratic-aligned movement to chip away at the Electoral College.
LINK
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:26 am to CU_Tigers4life
I always like to see unanimous rulings even if it’s against something I would want. Gives me a glimmer of hope that the Supreme Court isn’t fully partisan.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:29 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Can Bind Faithless Electors
Word should be MUST or it means nothing.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:30 am to FalseProphet
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Also a win for those pushing the popular vote compact. An elector can now be compelled, under pain of penalty, to vote for someone who doesn't win their state.
A state legislature can now basically compel electors to vote for whoever the legislature wants.
Not really
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The Supreme Court ruled Monday that states can penalize presidential electors that go rogue and do not vote for the candidate who won their state, also known as faithless electors.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:36 am to FalseProphet
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A state legislature can now basically compel electors to vote for whoever the legislature wants.
I believe faithless electors are strictly defined as those not voting for the candidate that won the state. Therefore this ruling would prevent that. It has to go for the candidate that won the state.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:49 am to FalseProphet
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Also a win for those pushing the popular vote compact. An elector can now be compelled, under pain of penalty, to vote for someone who doesn't win their state.
No.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:51 am to MrLarson
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Word should be MUST or it means nothing.
It means the states have the power to if they want.
I think General states have a lot of leeway in determining how their electors vote.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:55 am to Bamadiver
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Is it?
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:56 am to DarthRebel
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The Supreme Court ruled Monday that states can penalize presidential electors that go rogue and do not vote for the candidate who won their state
that's because the laws they were ruling over dictate electors must vote for that candidate
this ruling paves the way for the compact, because that will be the law of the state at that point
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:57 am to notsince98
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I believe faithless electors are strictly defined as those not voting for the candidate that won the state. Therefore this ruling would prevent that. It has to go for the candidate that won the state.
states who want the compact will just change their laws to say the candidate who wins the national popular vote wins the state
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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this ruling paves the way for the compact, because that will be the law of the state at that point
Even if the compact disenfranchises the voters of the state?
That CAN'T be constitutional, can it?
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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states who want the compact will just change their laws to say the candidate who wins the national popular vote wins the state
That literally makes no sense.
A state could just as easily change their laws to say that "The electors of Tennessee will be bound to the candidate that the voters from the state of California chose."
And it'd have to stick?
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:00 am to SSpaniel
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Even if the compact disenfranchises the voters of the state?
winner takes all disenfranchises voters of the state as well
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That CAN'T be constitutional, can it?
it's certainly going to go up if it comes to fruition, but i think this ruling today provides a powerful precedent for it
the gay/trans ruling from a few weeks ago was absurd on its face but the court was boxed in by precedent. this is a long term strategy for the left. that's the only reason why this is 9-0. this is a "lose the battle to win the war" scenario
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:01 am to DarthRebel
quote:ok, they can, but how? Jail time for this kind of thing is anti American
The Supreme Court ruled Monday that states can penalize presidential electors that go rogue and do not vote for the candidate who won their state, also known as faithless electors.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:01 am to SSpaniel
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That literally makes no sense.
A state could just as easily change their laws to say that "The electors of Tennessee will be bound to the candidate that the voters from the state of California chose."
a 9-0 decision is a very powerful tool to allow states to choose how the electors must vote
this is going to be the argument when (not if) it comes up
you can't give states broad powers and then take it back when they use those powers in a way you don't like
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:07 am to CU_Tigers4life
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SCOTUS Rules 9-0 States Can Bind Faithless Electors
HUGE
Even more important that it was unanimous. Comforting.
This should put to bed those concerns of rogue state agents sending electors for a different candidate.
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