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re: SCOTUS ruled that Trump can use Alien Enemies Act…
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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By which specific country?
Why does an invasion have to be by a country? If a few million piratical people joined together, infiltrated our country and began attacking the foundations of it, that would be an invasion.
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:09 am to 14&Counting
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Is Bunk OK?
>>> FETAL POSITION <<<
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:14 am to hogcard1964
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Where is the declaration of war?
You've declared it on average intelligence.
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Sophist: Someone who argues cleverly, often regardless of truth or personal belief, mainly to display intellectual superiority or win the debate. (Originates from ancient Greek teachers who’d argue any side for a fee.)
Contrarian: A person who reflexively opposes the prevailing view, often just to be difficult or appear smarter
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:18 am to lake chuck fan
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Sophist: Someone who argues cleverly, often regardless of truth or personal belief, mainly to display intellectual superiority or win the debate
Not me. I specifically argue from a position of principles and win on those. The hypocrisy of so many makes that possible (not everyone is a fan of smaller government, so "winning" is more subjective in those discussions with authoritarians).
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Contrarian: A person who reflexively opposes the prevailing view, often just to be difficult or appear smarter
Again, how can I be a contrarian holding the same positions for 20 years on here? I hit my 20th anniversary in September or so.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:20 am to Bunk Moreland
it doesn't have to be a nation or foreign government thus the statement of OR ANY
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:24 am to Bunk Moreland
Your reading comprehension needs work. The foreign nation or government line is talking about if there is a war declared. Like how in ww2 they took all the Japanese in the U.S. and put them in camps.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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Where is the declaration of war?
Alien Enemies Act. The Supremes say so. Wake up.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:25 am to MikkUGA
Do we have any case law on how this has been interpreted? I'm guessing there hasn't been much.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:26 am to Bunk Moreland
We are when we are being invaded
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:27 am to Bunk Moreland
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Do we have any case law on how this has been interpreted? I'm guessing there hasn't been much.
Our current case law is basically the case law.
There are a few cases from WW2 that aren't really applicable now, as there was a 100% legally-declared war as the back drop.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:56 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Placekicker, what's the point of posting about rulings from 6 months ago?
The dangers of seeing a flashy headline and not actually looking at the story.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:11 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Are we in wartime?
We do not have to a declared war for the AEA to be enacted.
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Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.
Venezuela has committed a predatory incursion against the USA. So suck it.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:12 pm to WeeWee
How about Mexico? Any of Central America or other South American countries? We have like 280,000 Chinese students here -- is that an invasion or predatory incursion?
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:20 pm to Bunk Moreland
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How about Mexico? Any of Central America or other South American countries? We have like 280,000 Chinese students here -- is that an invasion or predatory incursion?
I don't know. Are those students drug runners or gang members? We are going after the Mexican cartels, because they are poisoning our citizens. It's an act of war.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:24 pm to Tigergreg
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We are going after the Mexican cartels, because they are poisoning our citizens. It's an act of war.
"Act of war" is the new MAGA "infrastructure"
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