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re: Scientists continue to debunk theory of evolution
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:36 pm to TrueTiger
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:36 pm to TrueTiger
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There is some evidence suggesting that our physical reality could be a simulated virtual reality rather than an objective world that exists independently of the observer.
Sounds like it could be the premise of a movie.
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:39 pm to cssamerican
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Macro evolution requires just as much faith as any other religion
The go-to comeback of theist to try to bring their religious nonsense up to the level of science. Macro-evolution is a made up term by the religious, just like "kinds". It's all just evolution.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:43 pm to olddawg26
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It took around 30k years to get a poodle from a wolf by selective breeding.
Yet, it’s still a dog, albeit a dog with less genetic variability than the wolf.
How many generations of fruit flies have occurred since we have been observing them? Have we observed any type of mutation that added DNA in such a way that created something that was no longer a fruit fly?
Now take the number of fruit fly generations and apply that to humans and see how far back in time you would go with no significant mutations. It doesn’t seem very likely macro evolution is possible unless there is another factor that triggers it that we are unaware of.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:47 pm to BlueJacket
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The go-to comeback of theist to try to bring their religious nonsense up to the level of science. Macro-evolution is a made up term by the religious, just like "kinds". It's all just evolution.
BS…Natural selection is just turning on and off switches that already exist within a species. Macro Evolution is creating new circuits with switches that didn’t exist in prior generations of a species.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:51 pm to cssamerican
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Macro evolution requires just as much faith as any other religion,
One of the pigeons strutting about on this particular chessboard made the comment that God and various theistic theories are neither observable or provable. I wonder if people even recognize the irony of that claim.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:57 pm to cssamerican
You don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
There’s no distinction between macro and micro evolution. There’s no such thing.
There’s no inherent difference except time
Evolution is merely the change in allele frequencies over time. That’s it.
There’s no distinction between macro and micro evolution. There’s no such thing.
There’s no inherent difference except time
Evolution is merely the change in allele frequencies over time. That’s it.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:59 pm to Flats
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Macroevolution
I'm always amazed at how little some of you actually know.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:00 pm to cssamerican
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It doesn’t seem very likely macro evolution is possible unless there is another factor that triggers it that we are unaware of.
Right that’s the IRC study.
I would say the time variable plus natural selection is the triggering factor. I don’t think anyone can really fathom a billion years.
Here is a study about the evolution of the fruit fly to add some context so the creation website you’re reading needs to update
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:08 pm to Fun Bunch
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There’s no inherent difference except time
There’s no inherent difference in a man running a 5 minute mile and a man running a 1 minute mile except time. Extrapolation is not necessarily grounded in reality.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:09 pm to cssamerican
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BS…Natural selection is just turning on and off switches that already exist within a species.
Dude. Face it. Evolution is scientific fact. The entire field of microbiology would need to be turned over if you are right. The how and why of evolution is the theoretical part.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:09 pm to Flats
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There’s no inherent difference in a man running a 5 minute mile and a man running a 1 minute mile except time.
Yes there is.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:44 pm to BlueJacket
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Macro-evolution is a made up term by the religious, just like "kinds". It's all just evolution.
The term was created by Yuri Filipchenko, who by the way was a scientist who believed in evolution.
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There’s no distinction between macro and micro evolution. There’s no such thing.
I know what you’re implying here; however, you know it’s well established that the term macro evolution generally refers to evolution above the species level.
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Here is a study about the evolution of the fruit fly to add some context so the creation website you’re reading needs to update
And it’s still a fruit fly. Do we have any examples of observed evolution above the species level. And by the way at no point have I argued for creationism.
All I’m saying is unless we have observed evolution in which something evolved into something else above the species level we are taking in on faith that our scientific theory is correct. But science was sure of other things in the past that proved not to be as they thought.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:54 pm to cssamerican
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Do we have any examples of observed evolution above the species level.
Have we observed the fruit fly changing species in the 90 years we’ve been studying them? No.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 1:44 am to AggieHank86
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You cut and pasted that utter nonsense straight from some Creationist screed, didn’t you?
No i didnt Mr "I dont understand the term theory". No where in my post is religion even slightly referenced. Nice move, dumbass
Posted on 11/24/22 at 1:48 am to BlueJacket
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Macro-evolution is a made up term by the religious
You should stop posting in this thread. Youre not quite up to the task, with comments like these
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What is macroevolution?
Macroevolution generally refers to evolution above the species level. So instead of focusing on an individual beetle species, a macroevolutionary lens might require that we zoom out on the tree of life, to assess the diversity of the entire beetle clade and its position on the tree.
This is on the Cal Berkeley web site. You know that well known religious school out in Cali?
Posted on 11/24/22 at 2:35 am to TrueTiger
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suggesting that the entire Universe could be a giant quantum computer.
Well atoms, which make up the universe, are quantum in nature so duh!
Posted on 11/24/22 at 3:11 am to Open Your Eyes
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People seem to struggle with the meaning of the word “debunk,” which means to prove something false.
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The Alex Stein thread the other day debunked the notion that you don’t support the sexualization of children.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 7:47 am to cssamerican
Isn't it possible that diversifying into multiple genders is an inherent reality in human genetics, and a clear example of microevolution in the human species?
We've already seen evolution within our own species occur before our very eyes: men are on average taller now than in the 1800's, and both boys and girls undergo puberty at a younger age than in the 1950's, and males have generally lower levels of testosterone than before. Why can't this whole gender diversity thing be a natural part of human evolution?
We've already seen evolution within our own species occur before our very eyes: men are on average taller now than in the 1800's, and both boys and girls undergo puberty at a younger age than in the 1950's, and males have generally lower levels of testosterone than before. Why can't this whole gender diversity thing be a natural part of human evolution?
Posted on 11/24/22 at 8:12 am to RobbBobb
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This is on the Cal Berkeley web site. You know that well known religious school out in Cali?
I heard they're fundies, handling snakes and such.
The knee jerks here are always the same. People cannot fathom that there are die-hard atheists who question whether random mutation/natural selection is capable of explaining the whole enchilada. It clearly happens, but is it sufficient? (insert "billions of years" response here).
Posted on 11/24/22 at 8:57 am to cssamerican
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it’s well established that the term macro evolution generally refers to evolution above the species level.
The entire field of microbiology has a foundation in evolution. There no scientific dispute that it happens. Like gravity, we know it's a fact but there is still a theory around why and how. I think alot of people act like accepting evolution somehow impacts other beliefs they have.
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