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re: Saw this elsewhere and wanted to know if smart people here agree?
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:26 am to mooseofterror
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:26 am to mooseofterror
quote:It is important also to not think of “normal” virus behavior. Lab-created viruses might be programmed to mutate to a more lethal level, deliberately.
It is also important to remember that viruses never mutate into more lethal versions. It would be counterproductive to their survival, it kills the host, it kills itself.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:28 am to JawjaTigah
Normal viruses also sometimes mutate to be more deadly. There’s no fricking rule’s in evolution besides whatever is best for passing on your rna/dna
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:34 am to Little Trump
Go read some of the stuff published by Klaus Schwab. He openly calls for depopulation.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:03 am to MAADFACTS
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I don’t think so. Most of the world doesn’t have any immunity to the new coronavirus whether it be from previous infection or a vaccine so there is plenty of population for it to move around in and mutate and it will continue to do so at what appears to be a rapid rate for the next couple years. Then it will still mutate but not as quickly and will become something more on the seasonal cold or flu spectrum. Even now, a time where there is cause for potential concern that a bad variant could develop somewhere and make its way here, 99.999999% of what people are worried about is just a result of dummies in the press panicking.
Don't know you - nor do I have any expertise in evaluating medical phenomena nor protocols. But I pretty much agree with what you expresseddfrom a gut level.
I am forced into the belief that over 3/4 of what we are 'told' by 'professionals' including 'the science' is formed in a politically tainted mold. I am forced to rely on people who I consider to be the best at delivering what they think minus the influence of politics, e.g. with no hypocrisy tainting their assertions.
In this field, I take Rand Paul as my primary go-to guy - I am forced by process of elimination in considering his intellectual prowess, his basic medical skill set, and (to me) his historical lack of hypocrisy in political matters.
I also lean to disbelief of any 'conclusion' or 'direction' that emanates from any historically hypocritical political sources - including any CNN/MSNBC or DEMOCRAT or SJW entity.
I am 83 years old, with COPD and immune deficiency from years of chemo, but historically in excellent physical health and condition. I figured any exposure to the original COVID would be a death sentence, so I took the first vaccine available with only the notion that "it may help me make it thru this phase of the pandemic."
From this point on, I am going to rely on Sen/Dr Paul for important decisions.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 9:10 am to loogaroo
The vaccinated is the variant. These people on here who have been vaxxed aren't going to believe this because then they would have to admit that in their heart of hearts that they have been fooled. They will go to their graves believing the government would never intentionally hurt anyone. Go listen to Dr judy mikovits and how Fauci did the same thing to AIDS patients in the 80s pushing AZT on them killing them and knowingly doing it. This fool thinks he's above the law. Hell he told the American public in 2017 that trump would face a pandemic in his term. He was the the one who created it and he knows these jabs will kill you, he wants them too.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:21 am to Little Trump
I think it’s something along those lines. From the research I’ve done on mRNA, I’m not sure the variant line of thinking adds up. But i agree it’s a population reduction scheme. It’s not a conspiracy theory because the sociopathic mad men themselves have told us several times they want to reduce the population. It’s not a secret.
I researched gene mutations in mRNA a LOT — 2 years before covid hit because my daughter and husband have a very rare genetic mutation in their mRNA. The symptoms don’t present themselves until late 30s to early 40s if they present at all. (Well the benign lung cysts that can cause lung collapse can present in early 20s.) My husband is 46 and so far he has only the benign non problematic not noticeable (only to him) symptom. Only 400 fams in the world are KNOWN (many may be unknown) to have this genetic mutation.
Pay attention here because it will teach you a little about mutations and variants of viruses and why some are different than others:
The location of the mutation in my husband and daughter’s gene is intron 8. Science calls the exact location of a mutation in a gene a variant. So each family with this same mutation in this same gene may have it in a slightly different area of the gene. So each family has a variant of the gene. The families with variants in introns seem to fare much better than families with variants in exons. Our 4 other children have a 50/50 chance of having the mutation as well. They will all be tested at 18 years old. Depending on the location of the mutation, it changes the gene code slightly differently. Some locations mess up the code more than others. The more the code is messed up, the more severe the presentation of the symptoms— typically. If a mutation causes a stop codon where the code is not supposed to stop at all then it’s really bad.
I don’t think people even remember what mutations are and how delicate it is. The public doesn’t recall learning about proteins and mRNA. I didn’t. But i had just taken a deep dive into it because of the diagnosis from Saint Jude Children’s hospital. My husband and daughter have a T where there should be a G in intron 8 in the FLCN gene. And now they are potentially facing kidney tumors, benign hair follicle tumors, melanoma, & benign lung cysts that cause lung collapse — All from a T being where there should be a G. The T being their messes up the PROTEIN.
DON’T INJECT FOREIGN PROTEINS INTO YOUR MRNA/INTO EVERY SINGLE CELL OF YOUR BODY. THESE MAD SCIENTISTS ARE JUST THAT, MAD. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. U DON’T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. (& FOR WHAT? A COLD?!?! IVERMECTIN WORKS! IT CURES COVID. I WATCHED IT CURE A FRIEND OF OURS OVERNIGHT WITH O2 LEVELS AT 62 IN THE HOSPITAL FOR A WEEK. LITERALLY OVERNIGHT AFTER IVERMECTIN HE WAS UP & WALKING WITH O2 AT 98. THIS WAS JUST 2 DAYS AGO.
Sorry to yell but I’m so frustrated by the number of people being so blind and trusting of media and the government both PROVEN maniacal liars. It saddens me. I am losing sleep over what is happening with this vaccine. And children!!!! Parents giving this to their CHILDREN!!! My heart freaking BREAKS!!! Go to Saint Jude’s! I have been there more times than I can count. Parents are injecting their kids with MUTATIONS! What do most mutations lead to? CANCER and death :(
I researched gene mutations in mRNA a LOT — 2 years before covid hit because my daughter and husband have a very rare genetic mutation in their mRNA. The symptoms don’t present themselves until late 30s to early 40s if they present at all. (Well the benign lung cysts that can cause lung collapse can present in early 20s.) My husband is 46 and so far he has only the benign non problematic not noticeable (only to him) symptom. Only 400 fams in the world are KNOWN (many may be unknown) to have this genetic mutation.
Pay attention here because it will teach you a little about mutations and variants of viruses and why some are different than others:
The location of the mutation in my husband and daughter’s gene is intron 8. Science calls the exact location of a mutation in a gene a variant. So each family with this same mutation in this same gene may have it in a slightly different area of the gene. So each family has a variant of the gene. The families with variants in introns seem to fare much better than families with variants in exons. Our 4 other children have a 50/50 chance of having the mutation as well. They will all be tested at 18 years old. Depending on the location of the mutation, it changes the gene code slightly differently. Some locations mess up the code more than others. The more the code is messed up, the more severe the presentation of the symptoms— typically. If a mutation causes a stop codon where the code is not supposed to stop at all then it’s really bad.
I don’t think people even remember what mutations are and how delicate it is. The public doesn’t recall learning about proteins and mRNA. I didn’t. But i had just taken a deep dive into it because of the diagnosis from Saint Jude Children’s hospital. My husband and daughter have a T where there should be a G in intron 8 in the FLCN gene. And now they are potentially facing kidney tumors, benign hair follicle tumors, melanoma, & benign lung cysts that cause lung collapse — All from a T being where there should be a G. The T being their messes up the PROTEIN.
DON’T INJECT FOREIGN PROTEINS INTO YOUR MRNA/INTO EVERY SINGLE CELL OF YOUR BODY. THESE MAD SCIENTISTS ARE JUST THAT, MAD. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. U DON’T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. (& FOR WHAT? A COLD?!?! IVERMECTIN WORKS! IT CURES COVID. I WATCHED IT CURE A FRIEND OF OURS OVERNIGHT WITH O2 LEVELS AT 62 IN THE HOSPITAL FOR A WEEK. LITERALLY OVERNIGHT AFTER IVERMECTIN HE WAS UP & WALKING WITH O2 AT 98. THIS WAS JUST 2 DAYS AGO.
Sorry to yell but I’m so frustrated by the number of people being so blind and trusting of media and the government both PROVEN maniacal liars. It saddens me. I am losing sleep over what is happening with this vaccine. And children!!!! Parents giving this to their CHILDREN!!! My heart freaking BREAKS!!! Go to Saint Jude’s! I have been there more times than I can count. Parents are injecting their kids with MUTATIONS! What do most mutations lead to? CANCER and death :(
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:26 am to Little Trump
Smart people are laughing at the post.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:27 am to Little Trump
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smart people here
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:29 am to Little Trump
I don't know why you have so many down votes or up votes for that matter. The truth of the matter is that we will never know. The reason that we will never know is because there is no science behind any of this and debate is 1 sided. They traded science for a narrative. They traded peer reviewed studies for Josef Mengele experiments and NAZI style forced compliance.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:31 am to Little Trump
To lighten the mood a little, i find it ironic that the ones not taking the vaccine mainly live in Louisiana Mississippi Arkansas & Texas as well as many in the black population. All of the very people the global “elites” despise. (Yes, they actually despise black people.) We will be the ones who survive. Not only do they despise us, we are also the ones armed to the teeth
They thought we were stupid ....
A miscalculation in their part
They thought we were stupid ....
A miscalculation in their part
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:34 am to Landmass
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The truth of the matter is that we will never know.
But we will know. It’s just a matter of time. The world population who took the vaccine IS the guinea pig. The side effects WILL indeed present themselves. Sadly, this is not going to end well. Abd don’t be fooled. These “elites” telling us to get the vaccine 24/7 have not gotten it. Did you see the interview will Bill Gates? He didn’t get it. That is very very clear.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:44 am to berrycajun
Sorry, but I really can't take you seriously.
mRNA is destroyed after the protein is produced and it doesn't affect your DNA. mRNA never enters the nucleus of a cell.
There's no need to lose sleep over this because it's really not a conspiracy.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:49 am to Little Trump
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Little Trump
Are you a fricking retard?
Posted on 8/8/21 at 10:59 am to tigerjjs
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Delta variant was first recognized in India in February 2021
The first Delta case was identified in December 2020, and the variant soon became the predominant strain of the virus in both India and then Great Britain.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 11:21 am to LSU Jax
https://rumble.com/vkg9mf-episode-1129-are-vaccines-causing-mutations.html
Go to 15:15 starts with fauci clip then dr. Malone responds and explains what ADE is (antibody enhancement dependency) and how the escaped variants/mutants are coming from the vaccinated NOT the unvaccinated. The solution: End the vaccines and start “repurposed” drug therapies (ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine + zinc + azithromycin) depending on the stage of infection or prophylaxis etc. He notes that the problem with Fauci’s line of thinking on drug therapies is he’s only considering drugs that are not yet approved - hence big pharma patents. Doesn’t want to use cheap therapies like the aforementioned. (We can assume the “elites” have investments in the patents)
Go to 15:15 starts with fauci clip then dr. Malone responds and explains what ADE is (antibody enhancement dependency) and how the escaped variants/mutants are coming from the vaccinated NOT the unvaccinated. The solution: End the vaccines and start “repurposed” drug therapies (ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine + zinc + azithromycin) depending on the stage of infection or prophylaxis etc. He notes that the problem with Fauci’s line of thinking on drug therapies is he’s only considering drugs that are not yet approved - hence big pharma patents. Doesn’t want to use cheap therapies like the aforementioned. (We can assume the “elites” have investments in the patents)
Posted on 8/8/21 at 11:28 am to darkmatter134
Glad your ignorance allows you to sleep well at night. I wish i was as ill informed as you.
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Messenger RNA (mRNA) is a single-stranded RNA molecule that is complementary to one of the DNA strands of a gene. The mRNA is an RNA version of the gene that leaves the cell nucleus and moves to the cytoplasm where proteins are made. During protein synthesis, an organelle called a ribosome moves along the mRNA, reads its base sequence, and uses the genetic code to translate each three-base triplet, or codon, into its corresponding amino acid.
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Messenger RNAs, also known as mRNA, are one of the types of RNA that are found in the cell. This particular one, like most RNAs, are made in the nucleus and then exported to the cytoplasm where the translation machinery, the machinery that actually makes proteins, binds to these mRNA molecules and reads the code on the mRNA to make a specific protein. So in general, one gene, the DNA for one gene, can be transcribed into an mRNA molecule that will end up making one specific protein.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 11:33 am to berrycajun
Antigen-dependent enhancement has been debunked by scientists. It's an acute condition that you'd expect lots of deaths from and this is not being shown in the data so far.
Why ADE hasn't been a problem?
All you've done in your comment is state that mRNA creates a protein. Well done.
mRNA cannot return to the nucleus and I'm not sure why you're trying to argue otherwise. It doesn't alter our genes.
Why ADE hasn't been a problem?
All you've done in your comment is state that mRNA creates a protein. Well done.
mRNA cannot return to the nucleus and I'm not sure why you're trying to argue otherwise. It doesn't alter our genes.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 11:52 am to darkmatter134
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It's an acute condition that you'd expect lots of deaths from and this is not being shown in the data so far.
The vaccine has been around for 6 months
ADE is just beginning
And why do you suppose vaccines are studied 6-15 years before being approved for the public? Because they are tested on animals to see what happens in the long run. Must be nice to trust these sociopathic egotistical narcissists who are PROVEN liars. & How many times has big pharma approved something only to have it kill and injure. Johnson and Johnson is one of the most vile companies on the planet. Even the genetic researchers at Saint Jude’s, many of whom, I’ve had meetings with, admit DNA and mRNA is a mystery and they don’t fully understand it. We volunteered for the study when they asked to take a slice of my daughter’s brain tumor. Since she was a volunteer they “keep tabs” on us. I have access to data from other unnamed families in the study. When I ask why do you suppose this family presents in this way etc. They say “we don’t know. DNA & rna are still very much mysteries.”
This vaccine is the first of its kind, and it was rushed. Period. Could mRNA vaccines be a useful in the future? Sure! But they weren’t ready! They STILL aren’t ready. They didn’t complete phase 3, and the over 5,000 deaths from the vaccine in America alone proves that.

This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:06 pm to darkmatter134
Returning to the nucleus has nothing to do with it
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:08 pm to darkmatter134
Why ADE is becoming a problem. We are just beginning to see it. And every sars v2 vaccine before has lead to ADE. It’s ok to be scared. But spreading your false optimism helps no one. It’s time to face the facts of what’s really going on so more people don’t get this vaccine and so more people who do get the virus turn to ivermectin instead.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32092539/
https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32092539/
https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 12:13 pm
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