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re: Satanists seek spot next to Ten Commandments monument on steps of OK's Statehous

Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:47 pm to
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....revisionist assholes


Totally agree.

I'm waiting on Revelator or any other
religious demagoge to tell me why these older law
codes aren't as important as the 10 commandments.

[ side note: I guess the isrealites didn't know murder was wrong before the 10 commandments, right? ]
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:56 pm to
True Satanism is giving in to one's desires and indulging his carnal nature. It in no way worships Lucifer or Satan, nor does it even believe they are real. Satan is a metaphor for the human side of all of us when we aren't worried about an all powerful diety watching over us. No, I'm not a satanist, but I find the subject of demons and Hell interesting.

Here are the 10 "Commandments" of the Satanic Church. They really aren't all that shocking.

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The Ten Satanic Rules of the Earth

1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

Posted by Blue Velvet
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:01 pm to
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1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
No mormons or Jehovah's witness.
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2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
No Jews.
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6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
No statists.
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8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
No Baptists.
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9. Do not harm little children.
No Catholic priests. Or does this include circumcision?

Overall, a pretty good guideline.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62000 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:04 pm to
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I'm waiting on Revelator or any other religious demagoge to tell me why these older law codes aren't as important as the 10 commandments.




If a group had wanted to erect a monument to Code of Hammurabi
It would have had relevance just like the Ten Commandments. The satanist have none. What's your point?
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:06 pm to
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It would have had relevance just like the Ten Commandments. The satanist have none. What's your point?


The Satanist ten commandments are just as viable
as the biblical ten commandments.

The Satanist ones even have an advantage because
they are in the original language it was transcribed in.

Besides that, it is an entirely religious thing to want
the ten commandments displayed in the manner described.
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
1254 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:08 pm to
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I love how the purpose is to celwbrate oklahoma's judeo christian heritage when the only the reason the population in indian territory was chrisitian was by force.


That's complete bullshite. The tribes sent to OK were already converted to Christianity before the relocation act.
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:16 pm to
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The tribes sent to OK were already converted to Christianity before the relocation act.


Yep.
NO force there.
They moved because they wanted to.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62000 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:24 pm to
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The Satanist ten commandments are just as viable as the biblical ten commandments.



Satanic law if there is such a thing had no part in the historic law of any culture, but the Ten Commandments did. You know this, but your hatred for all things religious won't allow you to concede this point so whatever.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:31 pm to
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That's complete bullshite. The tribes sent to OK were already converted to Christianity before the relocation act.


Yup they loaded up the moving vans happily.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
135369 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:37 pm to
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The Satanist ten commandments are just as viable
as the biblical ten commandments.
Viable?
In a historical pretext related to US law?
How so?
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Besides that, it is an entirely religious thing to want
the ten commandments displayed in the manner described.
Actually no.
An "entirely religious thing" would obviously relate entirely to religion, and not to historical foundations of law.

If, as previously stated, one were to argue other ancient historical precedents are more influential on our legal system, those arguments might have weight. Hamurabi was one example cited here.

However, the Satanic Commandments qualify not one iota in that regard.

Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
1254 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:47 pm to
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NO force there. They moved because they wanted to


You're missing the point. They were already practicing Christianity before the Southern racist Andrew Jackson relocated them to OK. My point being, the ones in OK have been practicing Christianity long before the white Sooners ever arrived to North America from places mostly like Germany and Ireland, etc.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 5:02 pm to
These aren't really crazy, other than number 7
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 5:24 pm to
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They were already practicing Christianity before the Southern racist Andrew Jackson relocated them to OK. My point being, the ones in OK have been practicing Christianity long before the white Sooners ever arrived to North America from places mostly like Germany and Ireland, etc.
sure but some had. The native pwople still practice thwie religion there now though and it isn't christianity so I doubt they were a majority christian back then considering they had to have missionaries of the time preach to try and convert the people. They opened up borarding schools for this purpose.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 5:37 pm to
Yeah, I'm sure you'd all love to have "Satanists" in your home.

Would you hire a baby-sitter who claims she is Santanic to watch your children?

Me doubts.

You can give all the "I'm cool with it" signals you want. In the end, you want less to do with them than you do with southern Baptists.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Member since Jul 2008
11323 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 5:37 pm to
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If the contents of the Bible are real and our laws were based of of those contents, then we should certainly honor Satan, as he is the only hero from the Bible. It was Satan who showed Adam & Eve the knowledge of good and evil-- he taught critical thinking to naked, willful thought-slaves, it was Satan who offered food for forty days to a starving man in the desert, Satan understands human nature and doesn't judge you for being a human, Satan accepts God's unwanted children unconditionally, it is Satan who actually punishes the evil doers, and it is Satan who hasn't had countless millions slaughtered in his name.

Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 5:44 pm to
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Satanic law if there is such a thing had no part in the historic law of any culture, but the Ten Commandments did


If that is the standard why don't we put up a Michael Jackson statue. You know, king of pop was a cultural icon.

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. You know this, but your hatred for all things religious

Your hatred of non Christian religions won't let you see this.
This post was edited on 12/9/13 at 5:45 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135369 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 6:14 pm to
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quote:

Satanic law if there is such a thing had no part in the historic law of any culture, but the Ten Commandments did
If that is the standard why don't we put up a Michael Jackson statue
Were you confused as to his intent in referencing "historic law"?
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 6:39 pm to
these morons opened up the flood gates

I hope every nut job group comes in there and puts up their bullshite
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 6:42 pm to
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Were you confused as to his intent in referencing "historic law"?


I was showing that "cultural law" is just complete BS.

Its a giant stretch. I'm not obliging the reach around.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78159 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 6:45 pm to
It is dumb to push for a ten commandments state bassed on faith, if you want to sya it is a historic document of law with a profound effect on american society then sure.

Moses is depicted on the Supremem court, along with many other low givers.
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