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re: Satanic Temple puts up display at Michigan Capital
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:33 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:33 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
To say "I don't believe God exists" or even "God doesn't exist" is a statement of faith, since you cannot know it for certain.
That is disingenuous. There is no evidence for a god of any kind whatsoever, so it is perfectly reasonable to believe that god does not exist. There is no faith involved because there is no evidence to the contrary.
on the flipside, you believe in a deity with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. That does require faith.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:34 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I'm not sure what you're laughing about. That is a fact.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:35 pm to Fun Bunch
Incorrect.
But my, you have your panties in a twist in this thread
IDGAF what you believe one way or another.
Or, I'm sorry, what you don't believe.
Excuse me, what is fact to you or not.
Jeez...
But my, you have your panties in a twist in this thread
IDGAF what you believe one way or another.
Or, I'm sorry, what you don't believe.
Excuse me, what is fact to you or not.
Jeez...
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:37 pm to Strophie
quote:
All I can say is that all of the "proof" that could be available to show that God does exist seems incredibly weak to me at best, and fully absent at worst.
And that is when we Christians say, you are looking straight past the evidence. You see it everyday. You attribute it to your worldview, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And to me it is overwhelming not absent.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:37 pm to Revelator
quote:
The sad part is that right in Romans, God says that they will be without excuse because they failed to see him in the creation.
Yeah, I'm sure that made a lot of sense before astrophysics.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:37 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:None? Absolutely none?
There is no evidence for a god of any kind whatsoever, so it is perfectly reasonable to believe that god does not exist. There is no faith involved because there is no evidence to the contrary.
Wow.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:39 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:You got some? Post some links.
None? Absolutely none?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:39 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
I experienced the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
So what did this monster do that you experienced him?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:42 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
There is no faith involved
Everybody lives by faith. Whether you recognize it or not.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:43 pm to Blue Velvet
quote:
You got some? Post some links.
You been outside today?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:44 pm to Lg
quote:
So what did this monster do that you experienced him?
I saw his GLORY. I know the Flying Spaghetti Monster because I KNOW the LASAGNA GOBLIN. The LASAGNA GOBLIN and the Flying Spaghetti Monster are the same being in different forms. Liberal pinhead.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:46 pm to Lg
quote:I'll take that as a "no". You cannot support your claim. Move on. Who's next?
You been outside today?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:46 pm to Lg
holy frick what an abortion of a thread this turned in to
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:46 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:
I saw his GLORY. I know the Flying Spaghetti Monster because I KNOW the LASAGNA GOBLIN. The LASAGNA GOBLIN and the Flying Spaghetti Monster are the same being in different forms. Liberal pinhead.
Awesome!!
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:48 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
holy frick what an abortion of a thread this turned in to
Who could have predicted this?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:50 pm to TbirdSpur2010
buncha theoretical philosophizers all standing in a circle looking each other in the eye and stroking their cocks
it's so dumb but so funny at the same time
it's so dumb but so funny at the same time
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:54 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:I have the weirdest boner right now.
buncha theoretical philosophizers all standing in a circle looking each other in the eye and stroking their cocks
it's so dumb but so funny at the same time
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:55 pm to Superior Pariah
quote:Is it wrong that I think she is sort of hot?
Jex Blackmore
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:04 pm to Lg
quote:
And that is when we Christians say, you are looking straight past the evidence. You see it everyday. You attribute it to your worldview, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And to me it is overwhelming not absent
Firstly, I was raised in a Christian household and was a practicing Christian until my early twenties. So I am familiar with the worldview and the ideology and the mindset, because I've earnestly lived it.
But for me, personally, the more educated I became, and the more critically and rationally I thought about the world, the less and less I saw God "working" or existing in places I was sure he had. You say correctly that my worldview "doesn't mean that [God] doesn't exist," because I'll once more state that I (and most nonbelievers) are not definitely saying that he doesn't. I'm saying that there is no evidence, physical, philosophical or otherwise, which has had enough weight to convince me that God does exist. And there is other evidence, physical and philosophical, which seems to be much more compelling in supporting the idea that there is not a God (in the traditional Abrahamic sense).
I can't comment on your personal feelings, or what has convinced you of God's existence. You could have had a literal revelation; you could literally hear the voice of God; you could have literal answers to prayer. The problem is that I personally have experienced none of these things. I have not seen anybody in my personal life experience these things. And beyond the intangible, beyond the anecdotal "I feel God's presence" type arguments, there isn't, to my knowledge, anything else that I can point to as evidence.
And please realize that my personal mindset is not for lack of wanting to believe. When I felt my faith wavering, I read every ounce of Christian apologetics I could find. But my research required me to view the other side, too, and the evidence therein was much more pervasive to me, and made the arguments in defense of the truth of Christianity seem simple minded by comparison.
Just my two cents.
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