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SARS vaccine could have been a template, but was shelved by Big Pharma

Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:23 am
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14811 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:23 am
Because other projects had higher return on investment.

Now I’m not saying socialism is the answer but how can we blindly worship free market economics when the profit motive is costing lives and livelihoods?

SARS vaccine shelved

Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
7025 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:28 am to
Because capitalism is built on profits and hindsight is 20/20? They’re probably kicking themselves for missing out because of it.

Communist.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68235 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:30 am to
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 More than a decade had passed since the viral disease known as severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, had spread through China, killing more than 770 people
SARS wasn't that big of a deal. Why would any company be expected to invest millions upon millions in a vaccine that nobody could predict when it would be needed again. The money went to other drug development. This is not a big story or black eye for "big pharma."
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14811 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:31 am to
Instead of focusing on profits and shareholder value, focus on what betters mankind the most.

It’s not hindsight: there were many experts back then warning of the threat posed by coronaviruses and the need to develop a vaccination strategy for that family of viruses.
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
2613 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:31 am to
What the hell was the CDC doing during the time period?
Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
3574 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:38 am to
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What the hell was the CDC doing during the time period?



Youtube: Mission Impossible 2 clip

making their own viruses.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:39 am to
Did you read the article?

“Early efforts to develop a SARS vaccine in animal trials were plagued by a phenomenon known as "vaccine-induced enhancement," in which recipients exhibit worse symptoms after being injected — something Fauci said researchers must be mindful of as they work to quickly develop a vaccine to protect against COVID-19.“

I would think they would shelf a ‘vaccine’ that enhances the pathogen instead of the immune system defense. Fauci is correct being cautious more than derp do Anything and everything!?!.
....you have to make sure what you are doing in response to a disease doesn’t worsen the situation. You may as well resort to bloodletting for anemics with that level of medical understanding.
Posted by thetigerman
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Member since Sep 2006
3630 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:39 am to
Also a pertinent question regarding antibiotics in general.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
7025 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 1:47 am to
El oh fricking el.

Obama blew off swine flu like the rest of the country did. Now all of a sudden because a company didn't invest millions into a potentially worthless vaccine it's their fault? frick right off with that shite, liberal.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123914 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:50 am to
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Now I’m not saying socialism is the answer
Well that's fortunate, because it seems socialist medical systems CV19 death rates outstrip ours 4-to-1. Not good.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:53 am to
There’s 3,000,000 current arguments staring you in the face for capitalist-based healthcare. And you’re arguing this? What Reddit did this shite garbage argument come from?
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:54 am to
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Because other projects had higher return on investment.

Now I’m not saying socialism is the answer but how can we blindly worship free market economics when the profit motive is costing lives and livelihoods?

SARS vaccine shelved


The intersection of capitalism and health care is imperfect. Another example is when Pharmaceutical companies respond to patent law by releasing "combination" drugs instead of developing new antibiotics.

Capitalism is a field of play and businesses are the players. Trying to figure out who is a player, who is a ref, and what constitutes the field of play is critical to getting things right.

Things that we need to function like utilities should be classified, regulated, and operated as such.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5700 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:32 am to
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Now I’m not saying socialism is the answer but how can we blindly worship free market economics
So you would have companies waste money on a vaccine that had no use?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6498 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:36 am to
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“Early efforts to develop a SARS vaccine in animal trials were plagued by a phenomenon known as "vaccine-induced enhancement," in which recipients exhibit worse symptoms after being injected


Didn't stop them from making the HPV vaccine.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6498 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:39 am to
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Why would any company be expected to invest millions upon millions in a vaccine that nobody could predict when it would be needed again. The money went to other drug development. This is not a big story or black eye for "big pharma."


I have an idea. We can take that $3 billion we give to Israel every year and use it to fund needed but unprofitable medicines instead of paying them to commit espionage against us and sell our technology to adversarial foreign countries.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:43 am to
Now tell what they should spend money on for 10 years from now
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71080 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:45 am to
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what betters mankind the most


Without the benefit of hindsight, would a vaccine for a one-time virus that killed 770 people be more valuable than the other projects they developed over the past 17 years?
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9720 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:49 am to
LOL if you think we would have this vaccine if we had socialism.

If we had socialism we wouldn’t have 95% of the drugs/vaccines we have today and wde’d be rationing care.

So yeah be thankful for capitalism, it ain’t perfect but it’s the best we got.
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