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re: Russian officials are blaming USA for SARS-CoV-2

Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:27 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138787 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:27 am to
quote:

What are the % odds that this was a US catastrophe?


I'd say 95%+
In terms of funding/enabling? I'd agree.

In terms of lab catastrophe/creation/release?
0%. Covid-19 was of Chinese origin albeit vis-a-vis US-French-British stupidity.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 11:28 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:31 am to
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I am, too.

It is the elements of the US government run by the perpetrators of the Color Revolution

Soros family

baraq (means mohammet's horse)

Biden crime family

Victoria Nuland

the entirety of the CIA

the FBI

Alexander Vindmann

U.S. special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker

Former Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Trump's former Russia expert Fiona Hill

State Department Ukraine-Russia expert George Kent

Michael McKinley, ex-adviser to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo

Bill Taylor, top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine

Defense official Laura Cooper deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia

State Department official Catherine Croft worked for Volker at the State Department and has expertise on Ukrainian issues. She focused on arms sales and security assistance

NSC official Timothy Morrison - Morrison is the top Russia and European adviser to Trump's National Security Council and was cited by multiple witnesses in conversations about a quid pro quo.

State Department's David Hale. Hale told lawmakers about the political considerations in dismissing Yovanovitch and how those decisions affected military aid for Ukraine.

Pence aide Jennifer Williams who told lawmakers and staff it was “folly” to withhold military aid to Ukraine
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 11:33 am
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:47 am to
Pushing back on the fact checkers (Twitter)


Updated OP to add this. Clandestine pushes back on Snopes and Co. fact check.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:10 pm to
I think we would be appalled to learn of the true depravity of the US government. They are sick
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

think we would be appalled to learn of the true depravity of the US government. They are sick


This is exactly why there were so many Q fantasies about politicians, sex trafficking, children and sucking their blood.

If, instead of believing that your political opponents have wrong opinions, you can decide that they are intrinsically evil, then it makes it perfectly justified to hate them.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95611 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:44 pm to
I'm reasonably certain that U.S. dollars funded some (if not all) of the gain of function research that led to this particular outbreak.

So, it's not unsupportable as a charge.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77569 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:48 pm to
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This is exactly why there were so many Q fantasies about politicians, sex trafficking, children and sucking their blood

Please show me a post where Q says this.
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
1509 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:30 pm to
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In terms of lab catastrophe/creation/release? 0%. Covid-19 was of Chinese origin albeit vis-a-vis US-French-British stupidity.

I’d offer that it all depends on how you frame it. You can view it as an international research consortium that embraced lots of risks, making each party jointly liable. Ralph Baric of UNC and Daszak of EcoHealth were on the 2018 DEFUSE proposal to DARPA where they proposed inserting cleavage sites into sarslike viruses. Those men certainly would know if that work was ultimately carried out at the WIV, and they would know the biosafety culture and practices at the WIV. Hell they might’ve made intellectual contributions remotely while the work was ongoing.

Whatever the truth, I hope the House Republicans are serious and professional about this. The other side is dug in deep. This is a battle that must be won.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

We should all pray this is not true.


Deep down we know it's likely true
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77569 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:47 pm to
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We should all pray this is not true.




Ask yourself if there has been anything resembling this depth of coverage broadcast by ANY MSM outlet.

Then ask yourself, "Are they simply failing to cover the story, or is their chosen coverage the exact opposite of what is being reported by Clandestine and others?"

If the answer is "No," then ask yourself why this might be?

Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11387 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:42 pm to
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I think it’s become common knowledge that the USA, at the very least, funded these outbreaks. For what purpose is debatable but the fact the money came from our tax dollars isn’t anymore.

The purpose was obvious to those that aren’t blind. Our government is corrupt and needed a way to illegally install a pedophile in office. Causing panic with death count and infection rates on the news, they used this info to push mail in voting. With mail in voting not being secure like it is in those states that have done it in the past, it was easier to persuade those that are blind, to think the election was secure. Our government hates us.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11387 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:45 pm to
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ksayetiger

You are a prophet!! The more this mess is exposed, the more your theory is proven correct. Trump always said our government was against the people, he was only in the way to try to stop them.
Posted by Archangel
Wilderness
Member since Jan 2023
113 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39640 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:05 pm to
Where-is-McCarthy? Has a single Hearing/Investigation with Subpoenas been undertaken? Mc is Trump's guy...where is Trump calling out His Speaker in full public view? WTF are the Republicans doing that counts?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27173 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

I think it’s become common knowledge that the USA, at the very least, funded these outbreaks. For what purpose is debatable but the fact the money came from our tax dollars isn’t anymore.


It isn't debatable. It isn't even well hidden. I found out all about this in early 2020. Patent trail. Research trail. Done over decades! All documented. All available to everyone. Moved overseas when it was outlawed in the USA.

None of this is new news. None of this is ground breaking.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77569 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:16 pm to
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None of this is new news.

Agreed.
quote:

None of this is ground breaking.


Not for us, but we're not the intended consumers of these disclosures.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4804 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Not for us, but we're not the intended consumers of these disclosures.



It’s went viral since this morning.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77569 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 5:17 pm to
Indeed, but we've known most of these things for some time. Joe & Jane Flyover Country didn't.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18740 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

I think it’s become common knowledge that the USA, at the very least, funded these outbreaks.


I think it’s obvious the US funded the research. There’s a lot of strong evidence there.

The outbreak? Nah. That was most likely a result of sloppy work by the Chinese.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77569 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

That was most likely a result of sloppy work by the Chinese.

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