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re: russian commies-orcs are pushing false narratives against the West

Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by LLeD
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:41 pm to
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Posted by Narax
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:43 pm to
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In my first post here i have said, i am from Western Europe.
I love America, Europe and our beautiful Civilization, always been Trump supporter.

Do you admit that the USA has upheld all commitments it made under the Budapest agreement?
Posted by LLeD
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Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:10 pm to
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Narrative 6: “America Broken, the West Finished”

I mean, it has been happening in slow motion but this isn't false. We are broken, completely corrupted by an Etatist Kleptocracy ruling class that support a Crony Corporatocracy masquerading as "capitalism". And it's nothing new. This began with the morally and ethically questionable passage of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913.

113 years later, and thanks in no small part to federally controlled mega-expansion that has handed near-absolute controlled and almost no oversight to the myriad three-letter agencies that shape both domestic and foreign policy.

TL/DR: We are broken and screwed, and there is no peaceful, amicable solution.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:11 pm to
ETA: profound apologies, double posted.
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Posted by Narax
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:40 pm to
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sorry, I am not really in this topic.

I'm shocked, every pro Ukrainian bot out there has ranted about Budapest for the last 4 years.

Surely you must have heard it.

For your information, the US signed a memorandum in which Ukraine gave up Soviet Nuclear weapons that they had no ability to use and the US and Russia (and France/UK) Agreed to not attack Ukraine, and go to the UN Security council if Ukraine was attacked.

The United States did that multiple times, in 2014, 2015, and 2022.

Russia vetoed it each time.

That has not stopped a worldwide Ukrainian campaign to accuse the USA (Under Biden no less) of betraying Ukraine.

Surely you must have heard it.

In case you wonder why many here have a lot of distrust for Ukraine.
Posted by LLeD
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:36 pm to
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Could you tell about "yellow-black" colors of the flag on your "Anticommunist" avatar please?

I'm colorblind. The spectral tones couldn't possibly mean less to me.

The avi itself, but an amusing reference to Pinochet and how the Left views me since I dare to fall on the right side of the Overton Window. Call it ironic and semi-satirical, if you wish. Especially since I'm basically still what would have been called a "Kennedy Democrat" or "Blue-dog Democrat" before the turn of the century.
Posted by Knight of Old
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:44 pm to
Them and every other country on the planet…
Posted by Gunny Hartman
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:39 pm to
Sounds like Peter Zeihan in reverse. Don't believe either.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:04 pm to
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I completely missed annexation of Crimea in 2014, just leaved comfie life, as ruzz invaded Ukraine on 24.02.2022 (was planned on 22.02.2022). I woke up and began to study this problem intensely. It was a mystery to me why the "pandemic" suddenly stopped with the start of this war.

For 4 years continuously.

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Most likely, it wasn't Ukrainians but left-wing russians.

No, it was some of the most well known pro Ukrainian voices on the internet.
You can look it up, they even got Lech Walesa to repeat the lie in his old age, and he is no left wing Russian.
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It make sense, thank you.

Yea when people lie about your country betraying another country it makes you dislike their side.
Posted by LLeD
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 12:52 am to
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Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:12 am to
Who cares, that goes triple for Europe.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:24 am to
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Could you tell his name please? I would like do some research about him.

https://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/47336

https://www.facebook.com/roman.sheremeta.7/posts/der-spiegels-latest-report-points-to-a-betrayal-by-the-united-statesaccording-to/10162468524917549/

https://kyivindependent.com/eugene-czolij-the-budapest-memorandum-reality-check/

It's everywhere.

That was about 20 seconds of google.

It's not just random people with 25 followers.

Do I think China is pushing this? 100% Ukrainian influencers and news sites are corrupt. China is adapt at pushing this you can't trust the US idea.

To quote Stanford's review of the memorandum.

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Over the past three years, the U.S. government has provided Ukraine well over $100 billion in military and financial assistance. That is consistent with what U.S. officials told Ukrainians in 1993-94 when they said Washington would act if Russia violated its Budapest commitments.


Russia is a geopolitical foe with opposing views.

Stopping them in Ukraine would be good, but we have many priorities, a nation that sees your help as betrayal seems like a non ideal investment.

Europe as a whole has gotten significantly more Anti US since 2022, and that's before Trump took office.

Chinese/Russia/Ukrainian influencers have significantly harmed US reputation.

All the while the US had been giving tax payer funded arms and intelligence support to Ukraine.
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