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re: Rush: Robin Williams killed himself because of a ‘political leftist’ attitude

Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:39 pm to
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So, how in the world can Zach contend that MediaMatters took Rush's words "out of context"?


Because it is an excerpt from a very long segment. I heard it. You didn't. MM didn't post the entire segment. This is what 'OUT OF CONTEXT MEANS.'

And if you were so sure that MM got it right why didn't you listen to the first two hours of Rush today where he PROVED MM was wrong? Hmmm? If he was lying then you could critique him from today. But you have NO clue. You are speaking from a position of absolute ignorance of the facts. I'm speaking as a first hand witness to both days of real content.

You are looking like a total fool to keep clinging to Media Matters when everyone here knows they are bogus.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:39 pm to
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Politicians of any stripe are fair game


Do you think he ever made fun of Leftist Pols?

I'm old enough to remember people like Bob Hope who did make good natured jokes about all Pols.

This is not what Williams did.

That was his right. Fine by me. But to imply he wasn't political is not correct.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:39 pm to
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Or how about they are Americans just like you and I and are allowed to express whatever political opinion they damn well please.


How about you not taking my statement out of the context of the thread?

Thread context: He has a leftist attitude
My take: Meh, he's not really that far left
Your comment: HE HAS A RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH

I know this is really difficult for you, but try to at least make your comments relevant to the discussion at hand.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:41 pm to
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They deserved it.


Well then I'm sure you have no problem when people on the Right go after the Kenyan born, Muslim interloper.

amirite?
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:43 pm to
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You are looking like a total fool to keep clinging to Media Matters when everyone here knows they are bogus.
MM's stated mission is to destroy FNC and Conservative talk radio. I have no idea why anyone would be surprised they distort the truth. They have a loooong established history of doing this.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:45 pm to
I read both transcripts from the 2 shows. He wasn't taken out of context. His implication yesterday was that RW's left leaning ideology contributed to his taking his own life. Sure, most of his diatribe was his usual rant against the "leftist media", but he interjected his own views on RW as well. This isn't the first time, nor will it be the last, Rush says something completely stupid and/or insensitive then complains about being taken out of context.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:46 pm to
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Well then I'm sure you have no problem when people on the Right go after the Kenyan born, Muslim interloper.


Not sure who you're talking about, but I'm all for making fun of any and every politician. Just be funny when you do so is all I ask.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:49 pm to
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I read both transcripts from the 2 shows. He wasn't taken out of context. His implication yesterday was that RW's left leaning ideology contributed to his taking his own life. Sure, most of his diatribe was his usual rant against the "leftist media", but he interjected his own views on RW as well. This isn't the first time, nor will it be the last, Rush says something completely stupid and/or insensitive then complains about being taken out of context.


Thanks for identifying yourself as a liar.

Edit.. But I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself. Give us a link to today's transcript THAT YOU READ.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:51 pm
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10524 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:52 pm to
Today's transcript hasn't been posted yet has it?

Nvm it hasn't
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
87735 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:52 pm to
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How about you not taking my statement out of the context of the thread?


you said it in the "he's not as bad as x, y or z." in the sense that it's not as much about what they believe as it is how expressive they are about it. The constant bellyaching from the right over what actors say is absurd.

oh and the whole "Democrats were more centrist in 2000" comment made me lol irl. Democrats have been moving further and further right for 3 decades at this point.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9779 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:53 pm to
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but I'm all for making fun of any and every politician. Just be funny when you do so is all I ask.


You do the same, is all I ask.
Posted by Zach
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116649 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:54 pm to
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Today's transcript hasn't been posted yet has it?


Nope. It hasn't. That's why I was laughing.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62492 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:54 pm to
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The constant bellyaching from the left over what Rush says is absurd.
Stop pretending like this is a right-exclusive issue. It's silly.

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Democrats have been moving further and further right for 3 decades at this point.
stop it. My abs are sore!
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:56 pm
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9779 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:54 pm to
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Give us a link to today's transcript THAT YOU READ.



Maybe he's one of these guys: LINK
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:55 pm to
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But I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself. Give us a link to today's transcript THAT YOU READ



LINK
Posted by Zach
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Member since May 2005
116649 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:01 pm to
Your link says 100% that MM was out of context. Thank you for supporting my position and destroying your own.
Now why don't you actually go back and read your Rush link and tell us where it shows he is not out of context. Just highlight the evidence from your link. We can then compare it to the whole transcript and see the context.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:03 pm to
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Stop pretending like this is a right-exclusive issue. It's silly.


there's a difference between expressing your opinion and saying the kind of things rush says in the OP

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stop it. My abs are sore!


I guess you can't see it from so far to the right but it's true. They have become more and more towards corporatism and farther and farther away from the working class.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:03 pm to
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you said it in the "he's not as bad as x, y or z."


The context of the thread was positioning him as some sort of outspoken political commentator. He wasn't. He was a comedian.

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in the sense that it's not as much about what they believe as it is how expressive they are about it.


Not my point at all. Williams expressed through his art. Damon, Streisand, Fonda went out of their way to make public statements. Not even close to the same thing.

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oh and the whole "Democrats were more centrist in 2000" comment made me lol irl


Of course it does - because you're blind.

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Democrats have been moving further and further right for 3 decades at this point


Unless you are posting from a time machine in 1999, you cannot possibly believe this.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:03 pm to
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People that say such are as bad.
no I don't think so.


Calling out assholery is always appropriate
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
87735 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Zach


you're really embarrassing yourself trying to defend this guy.

you'll never see me coming to the aid of Rachel Maddow or some other fringe leftist commentator.
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