re: Rush Limbaugh pouts about potential black James Bond

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Let's see... Better actor is subjective...

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Don't take my word for it. Let's compare the nominations and awards Phoenix has received compared to the nominations and awards Elba has received.

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...and so is your opinion that he has the ability to play different roles.

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Again, don't take my word.

Let's compare the different types of roles that Phoenix has played to the different types of roles Elba has played.

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It's OK if you're upset they want the black dude to play Bond.

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It's OK if you are upset that I named a white dude (Phoenix) who would make a better James Bond than any black dude including Elba.

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It's also OK for us to let you know that that is inherently racist.

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It's also OK that you let us know you are the racist because you believe there is no white actor (which includes Phoenix) who could play the role of James Bond better than Elba.

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Nope. Again.

You asked for a logical reason. I gave you one. I neither agreed or disagreed with the producers because that isn't relevant. We are discussing logic. But since you are a racist you really can't use logic.

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You claimed it was a logical reason for a black man to portray James Bond instead of a white actor by saying the producers think it's logical for a black man to portray James Bond instead of a white actor.

Therefore, you think Elba would be a better James Bond than any white actor including Phoenix.

Thinking that a black actor like Elba would be a superior James Bond than any white actor means you are a racist.

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And stop with the Phoenix crap.

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Why?

Is it because you would have to admit that Phoenix would make a better James Bond than Elba would?

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You have your head screwed on backwards and you are a liar.

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None of that changes the fact you are a racist.

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Thanks. You just admitted that your head is screwed on backwards and that you are a liar.

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None of that changes the fact you are a racist. You admitted it.

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Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

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Since you agreed with the executives, producers, and directors that Elba is the best actor to portray James Bond, I responded specifically to your opinion. Do you really think Elba would be a better James Bond than Phoenix?

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When did I agee? Post it. Lol

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Yes you did even if you don't realize it.

See my comments at the beginning of this thread.

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Awesome. But you aren't in the movie business. I'm going to value their opinion over yours. They have skin in the game.

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That's fine with me.

You just proved I am correct that you think Elba would make a better James Bond than any white man including Phoenix.

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You only have wrinkly old balls.

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At least I have balls. You are a pussy.

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Continue on with your racism.

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You are the racist because you think a black man could play the role of a white man (James Bond) better than any white actor including Phoenix.

BTW, what would you think if they made a new movie about James Brown and Phoenix played the role of James Brown instead of a black actor?

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Where did I say that?

All I've said re: potential actors is that it is not illogical for the producers to think Idris Elba would offer a new take on Bond and bring in more viewers.

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See my last post why if you think it is logical to have a black man play James Bond instead of a white actor then you are a racist.

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However, your assertion that Elba is disqualified solely because he is black is inherently racist

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Apparently you missed my post where I said I had no problem with Elba playing James Bond as long as Elba used makeup to make himself look like a white man.

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You've got that certain je ne sais QUOI of an old, bigoted a-hole who can't adapt to or accept that the world changing around him.

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You may not know what but I know that in the 60s I fought for civil rights for blacks down South.

A racist wouldn't do that.

Just because I disagree with a young biased left wing a-hole like you about whether a black man should play an iconic fictional white character (James Bond} instead of any white actor including a great white actor like Phoenix, that doesn't mean I can't adapt to or accept that the world is changing around me.

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Part of me pities you and the other part just looks at you as a cartoon character.

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All of me despises you because you seem to get some sort of pleasure from deliberately trying to twist my words just so you can call me a racist.

Said an old wise man to a young fool.

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You claimed it was a logical reason for a black man to portray James Bond instead of a white actor by saying the producers think it's logical for a black man to portray James Bond instead of a white actor. Therefore, you think Elba would be a better James Bond than any white actor including Phoenix. Thinking that a black actor like Elba would be a superior James Bond than any white actor means you are a racist.

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no. I said if they think he is the best actor. See,I didnf bring race into it. Lol

No. I gave you a logical reason. Which is they think he is best. It doesn't matter to me. Only thing I have to do is provide a logical reason. Have done so.

But, you refuse to accept reality.

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Why?

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Because I have no interest in discussing specific actors. Why not Clive Owen. Why not stephen merchant.

My only position is that I can give you a logical reason. If the producers think Elba is better than Phoenix that is a logical reason to cast Elba.

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Thanks. You just admitted that your head is screwed on backwards and that you are a liar.

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I'm really not concerned about appearing that way to a racist.

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Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

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Your posts provide the evidence. If multiple people are telling you this then the problem is with you. That doesn't mean you are a racist, but at best your posts come across that way.

But, we all know you are a racist. Stand proud!

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Yes you did even if you don't realize it. See my comments at the beginning of this thread.

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Wow. You actually think you have something lol

I have no idea who would be better. But, I certainly never advocated one way or the other. My sole position is the producers can view one actor, Elba, as better. They may view Phoenix as better. The only thing that matters is what they think in order to make my point.

James Brown is real. Are you as perturbed that all the hobbits weren't played by little people?

Continue on racist.

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The Bond character is obviously supposed to be white as envisioned by Ian Fleming, creator of the 007 character. It is an amalgam of real life people he interacted with serving in WW2.

If this movie tells the story as a continuation of character insofar as the lead role supposing to be either the same person from previous films or a rehash of the original Bond, casting a black actor is an absurd farce.

If they want to give him another name and use the 007 moniker with some explanation in the storyline, then I could buy into a black actor portraying a British spy/agent.

You are retarded if you think that position constitutes racism.

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But here's the thing that makes all of this uproar about a black actor ridiculous. The Bond movies are about a fictional character named Bond working for British intelligence in the 2000's. With modern day enemies, politics and technology. The Bond movies are not about an agent named Bond who existed during or shortly after WWII. They haven't been for quite awhile. The movies are about a current agent named Bond and designated 007 who embodies traditional traits of cool and bad arse. He can be black or white.

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How the frick is this silly arse thread so long?

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Oh, poliboard silliness. And never, ever underestimate the trolling power of DawgfaninCa. Dude has it down pat and is relentless. Happy New Year.

i thought it was basically canon that "007" and "James Bond" are just descriptors for that particular job

i'm just saying. otherwise you run into the time warp issues that were referenced earlier

which is much harder to believe than a black guy hailing from scotland

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Sony can do whatever strikes it as marketable.

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Cute. But certainly you are intelligent enough to distinguish between characters that are DEFINED by their race and those that are not...right?