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Rolling Stone is skeptical of Whistleblower: "The ‘Whistleblower’ Probably Isn’t"

Posted on 10/8/19 at 3:30 am
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/8/19 at 3:30 am
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It’s fair to wonder if this is a one-person effort. Even former CIA official Robert Baer, no friend of Trump, said as much in an early confab on CNN with Brooke Baldwin:

BAER: That’s what I find remarkable, is that this whistleblower knew about that, this attempt to cover up. This is a couple of people. It isn’t just one.

BALDWIN: And on the people point, if the allegation is true, Bob, what does it say that White House officials, lawyers, wanted to cover it up?

BAER: You know, my guess, it’s a palace coup against Trump. And who knows what else they know at this point.

That sounds about right. Actual whistleblowers are alone. The Ukraine complaint seems to be the work of a group of people, supported by significant institutional power, not only in the intelligence community, but in the Democratic Party and the commercial press.
Even the Rolling Stone smells a rat
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 3:31 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41497 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 3:38 am to
I’d the rolling stone is questioning it, holy hell its got to be fake.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
22904 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 4:58 am to
Link?

*found it. Good read: Rolling Stone article
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 5:08 am
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16973 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 5:20 am to
I'm guessing whoever wrote that article will be getting fired. Truth and reason goes against Rolling Stones grain
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62765 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:22 am to
I feel dirty for agreeing with a Rolling Stone article.
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 6:23 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:23 am to
quote:

Even the Rolling Stone smells a rat

A rat knows a rat
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38713 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:26 am to
They know that the deep state did better homework on the second whistleblower.

That’s why everyone is starting to discredit the first one.


Please don’t decide that RS is even remotely fair because they finally concluded what you already knew.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:36 am to
quote:

That’s what I find remarkable, is that this whistleblower knew about that, this attempt to cover up. This is a couple of people.


The WB was explicit about most of the information coming from his concerned colleagues.

This doesn't make him not a whistleblower.

It also has no bearing whatsoever on whether Trump acted corruptly or not.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:40 am to
quote:

They know that the deep state did better homework on the second whistleblower.

That’s why everyone is starting to discredit the first one.


Please don’t decide that RS is even remotely fair because they finally concluded what you already knew.


The sub-headline, along with RS's cheer-leading of Bradley Manning as a WB, tells you everything you need to know about RS's intentions:

quote:

It’s an insult to real whistleblowers to use the term with the Ukrainegate protagonist


RS still desires the intended outcome. This is just RS's way of booing a coach who made a shitty call.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:42 am to
quote:

This doesn't make him not a whistleblower.


No. It was his failure to follow the WB legal procedures and his coordination solely Schitts and partisan hack lawyers that makes him a leaker and a criminal co-conspirator.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:46 am to
But I thought the deep state was tinfoil hat nonsense. An Aggie told me that.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 6:51 am to
Col Lang, he writes the blog Sic Semper Tyrannis, said the same thing.

quote:

This sounds like a CIA conspiracy designed to force Trump from office. The WH and NSC staffs are peopled by some political appointees and a horde of career people detailed from various departments of the Executive Branch; CIA, Defense, State, Justice , Treasury, etc. The lending agency selects the people who are lent. The opportunity for someone like Brennan who still has a lot of faithful followers at CIA to plant a group of informants and operatives in Trump's WH has been evident and remains so.


quote:

My instincts and the application of Occam's Razor lead me to the conclusion that there is an "operations room" somewhere that is coordinating the efforts to remove Trump from office in what does amount to a "soft coup d'etat." A fair minded person looking back over Trump's term will see that the attempts to undermine and bring him down began the day after his inauguration and have continued ever since in wave after wave of accusations and press induced frenzies. This cannot be accidental and it will continue through his second term if he has one.



LINK
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 8:37 am
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:17 am to
The deep state is getting desperate and sloppy. Obstruction of justice stemming the Russian collusion was always the master plan and goal. They invested years and countless manhours in putting it together.

They knew that the collusion story was shite but it created enough smoke to get the mouth breathers on board. But it was just a pre-text that they thought would surely enrage Trump enough to lure him into a clear process crime.

But when that failed, they continued to play cute with the Mueller Report's "does not exonerate" conclusion. Following Mueller's dud of an appearance and Naddler's embarrassing shitshow of a committee hearing, they realized it was time to take Russia-Obstruction-gate, as well as Mueller and the Naddlers, out to the pasture.

Hence, we present to you Ukraine-gate, a blatantly and hurried manufactured crisis stemming out of a single phone call and the President's decision to temporarily delay funding. All of this materialized within a matter of weeks, not months or years. It is based on blatant lies and is being forced down the public's throat through open gaslighting by the MSM.

I continue to believe that this will backfire spectacularly.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38713 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:18 am to
quote:

RS's way of booing a coach who made a shitty call



This is the best way to describe it.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52363 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:18 am to
Someone around here has been telling y'all this all along.


Y'all member?



I member.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Please don’t decide that RS is even remotely fair

Who me?? RS sucks arse
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:28 am to
You need to leave that shite to the professional liars. You are only embarrassing yourself
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14647 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:39 am to
quote:

The deep state is getting desperate and sloppy.


They're not done yet. It's going to keep getting even worse until the hammer is dropped.

quote:

I continue to believe that this will backfire spectacularly.


Yep. Just like everything they've tried in the past & everything they'll try in the future. Trump knows their game, & he's using their game against them.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62009 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:52 am to
The article paints a very bleak picture of our intelligence agencies.
I’m always told by people like Hannity and Bongino that most of the rank and file are good folks. But if they are part of all these nefarious schemes and now are silent, how can they be?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101430 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:01 am to
Matt Taibbi has been fantastic about Russia and now this. And he HATES Trump. Refreshing to see some honesty from at least one person on left
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