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Roger Stone's Text Messages Go Public
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:46 pm
Stone has maintained he had a back channel to Assange - an intermediary of sorts. Stone a while back said the cut-out was a man named Randy Credico. Since that time Credico has denied he was the cut-out. Now Stone has released text messages proving Credico was texting him hints about upcoming Wikileaks drops.
The problem for Credico is that he has testified under oath to the grand jury that he was not a source for Stone. Oops.
DailyCaller
The odd thing is that Credico is a long-time Democrat and has been involved in Democrat NYC politics for years. Something stinks here. Credico in the text messages repeatedly told Stone to "leave my name out of it."
The problem for Credico is that he has testified under oath to the grand jury that he was not a source for Stone. Oops.
DailyCaller
The odd thing is that Credico is a long-time Democrat and has been involved in Democrat NYC politics for years. Something stinks here. Credico in the text messages repeatedly told Stone to "leave my name out of it."
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:47 pm to AUstar
Is he talking about Cheese Pizza so the media can say he loves cooking?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:51 pm to AUstar
No one can still point out to me where it's a crime for Stone to have known about the release before they were released.
I don't want what Wolf says, I want the specific code that was broken.
I don't want what Wolf says, I want the specific code that was broken.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:54 pm to AUstar
This story vindicates roger stone and indicates that Randy Credico, a left wing radio host, is going to get charged with perjury
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:54 pm to bamarep
It’s not a crime as far as I know unless he was directing the release or coordinating it.
But I still want it in the historical record for the court of public opinion to weigh.
ETA: I seem to remember misprision of a felony being somewhere on the books but I can’t remember if it’s state or federal. And I have some constitutional concerns about it as well.
ETA 2: but stone fails the last prong, that he took a step to cover it up.
But I still want it in the historical record for the court of public opinion to weigh.
ETA: I seem to remember misprision of a felony being somewhere on the books but I can’t remember if it’s state or federal. And I have some constitutional concerns about it as well.
ETA 2: but stone fails the last prong, that he took a step to cover it up.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:56 pm to AUstar
He's about to get suicided
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:05 pm to boosiebadazz
It's a federal prosecutor looking into it, I'd like to read the specific code.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:13 pm to bamarep
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:22 pm to bamarep
quote:
No one can still point out to me where it's a crime for Stone to have known about the release before they were released.
This. Who cares?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:22 pm to AUstar
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:23 pm to boosiebadazz
What steps did Stone take?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:33 pm to bamarep
quote:
No one can still point out to me where it's a crime for Stone to have known about the release before they were released.
I don't want what Wolf says, I want the specific code that was broken.
Same. There is clearly nothing illegal about "knowing" something, but there might be problems if they were "colluding" with Russians to release e-mails. That's because election law might come into play there (where election law wouldn't come into play if you or I had a Russian give us Toddy's e-mails).
Remember, election law does not only apply to foreign money, but other material support can be included too. Whether e-mails fall under that statute, I don't know, but I am sure a good attorney could make a good case that it does. Dershowitz seems to think no such law would be broken even in a "collusion" situation, but I am not sure if he is an expert on election law.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:44 pm to boosiebadazz
Misprison of a felony I think requires the person to actively conceal the felony, not merely know about it.
From Wikipedia:
and
Washington Post says:
So they would have to prove Stone knew about it, knew it was illegal, and actively helped conceal it.
From Wikipedia:
quote:
This offense, however, requires active concealment of a known felony rather than merely failing to report it.
and
quote:
The federal misprision of felony statute is usually used only in prosecutions against defendants who have a special duty to report a crime, such as a government official.
Washington Post says:
quote:
The federal definition of misprision requires that, “(1) the principal committed and completed the felony alleged; (2) the defendant had knowledge of the fact; (3) the defendant failed to notify the authorities; and (4) the defendant took affirmative steps to conceal the crime of the principal.”
So they would have to prove Stone knew about it, knew it was illegal, and actively helped conceal it.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:49 pm to AUstar
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Remember, election law does not only apply to foreign money, but other material support can be included too.
You mean like a dossier based on intelligence directly from Russian sources?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:51 pm to IllegalPete
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You mean like a dossier based on intelligence directly from Russian sources?
:ohyou:
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:53 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
It’s not a crime as far as I know unless he was directing the release or coordinating it.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 9:07 pm to SDVTiger
Yeah, that’d be conspiracy.
And can you other motherfrickers not read ETA 2?
And can you other motherfrickers not read ETA 2?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 9:11 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
And can you other motherfrickers not read ETA 2?
I actually did. You're a fair guy, most days, Boosie. You'll be Jake 2.0 before you know it.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 9:13 pm to Ace Midnight
nobody will ever be me 2.0, bruv
Posted on 11/14/18 at 9:13 pm to Ace Midnight
I remember running across misprision back in the day and was under the mistaken assumption that simply knowledge and failure to report triggered it and that’s why I said I had constitutional concerns. Compelling speech gets tricky.
I looked it up after my original post and saw the affirmative step to conceal and edited and it also assuages some of my constitutional concerns.
I looked it up after my original post and saw the affirmative step to conceal and edited and it also assuages some of my constitutional concerns.
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