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re: Robert’s insist that tariffs are a tax on the American people, and a tax needs to come
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:29 pm to Chancellor
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:29 pm to Chancellor
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Robert’s insist that tariffs are a tax on the American people, and a tax needs to come From Congress
quote:What about tariffs imposed by other countries? Is that a tax? Is that taxation without representation? Should we go to war with them? Tariffs seem a nicer route than war.
Roberts is correct
What about an embargo? Just completely ban imports from a country. Can Trump legally do that but not tariffs?
IMO, Imports/Exports are outside of the jurisdiction of SCOTUS. We should be able to make anything that we need domestically. Imports are just a way to get the same things more cheaply - a workaround. It’s discretionary. A privilege, not a right. Hence, Trump can do what he wants when negotiating.
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:29 pm to SDVTiger
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As usual you are the lowest iq poster
Hard to say. I don't think the other one can even read.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:34 pm to Chancellor
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Roberts is correct
Robert’s is a POS that’s compromised, period
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:37 pm to CleverUserName
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Including the fact that the democrats need to surrender their trillion plus demand for a spending increase?
No… if that’s the case Trump should be impeached… explain to me how all of this wouldn’t be on Trump… you insisting this a democrat thing… seems like conservative justices don’t agree with him either
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:41 pm to lepdagod
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No… if that’s the case Trump should be impeached… explain to me how all of this wouldn’t be on Trump… you insisting this a democrat thing… seems like conservative justices don’t agree with him either
Again. Another dodge. Are you having difficulty understanding the question? Do we need to get some assistance here?
The democrats want tariffs to go away. Therefore decreasing revenue. Since they want this… should they or should they not surrender their demand to spend over a trillion more to reopen the government.
Yes or no? Don’t downvote and dodge. Answer the elementary level question.
Edit: Annnnnnnnnnndd he gone. It’s hilarious. The democrats want to cut tariff revenue, hold the government hostage over trillions in additional spending, and then want to blame trump for deficit increases.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:44 pm to Padme
I don’t believe they are a tax. Companies from countries who have tariffs are responsible for the payment of the tariff. They can add zero, all, or even additional costs to their goods to cover the tariff. These tariffs are collected at the border. Taxes are levied against a consumer or entity, are their responsibility to pay and is collected directly from them.
Besides, Congress delegated tariff authority to the President through the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and the Reciprocal Trade Agreement Act of 1934. These give the President the power to negotiate trade deals and impose tariffs.
Besides, Congress delegated tariff authority to the President through the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and the Reciprocal Trade Agreement Act of 1934. These give the President the power to negotiate trade deals and impose tariffs.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:48 pm to rltiger
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I don’t believe they are a tax.
Well let’s flip it and say it’s a tax. Tax cuts need congressional approval.
Presidents in the past cut tariffs, a tax, without congressional approval.
You can’t cut taxes without congressional approval.
But none of the anti tariff people mention this.
Another thing they don’t mention is the cost of everything still went up when tariffs were cut.
You are a smart man my friend.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:01 pm to lepdagod
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The rules the rules… they apply when their enforced… unfortunately(fortunately for the American people)for Trump they are about to be enforced
And here it is. A left wing lunatic who admits his people only cares
about rules when it’s Trump.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:07 pm to Padme
Roberts is compromised.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:08 pm to rltiger
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. These tariffs are collected at the border. Taxes are levied against a consumer or entity, are their responsibility to pay and is collected directly from them.
Agreed, if they are going by the letter of the law, then how do you make the assumption/jump that they are taxing the American people? In some cases the goods may cost more, in some cases they might not, but it’s not for Robert’s to interject, but as mentioned, he did that with Obamacare. So even though it’s wrong to do that, he seems to not have a problem doing it.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:09 pm to Breesus
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Trump should disband the IRS and every single federal agency not mandated by law by Congress tomorrow
Wish he’d take a flamethrower to the bloat and agencies in kind. He’s fighting the left and the courts at every turn. Until he does something drastic, he’ll keep getting shot down. (No pun intended)
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:19 pm to rltiger
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Congress delegated tariff authority to the President through the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and the Reciprocal Trade Agreement Act of 1934. These give the President the power to negotiate trade deals and impose tariffs.
if scotus rules against him them Trump can block trade completely country by country and then institute an import fee to open trade back up
import fees are legal and currently enforced right now
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:25 pm to CleverUserName
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Yes or no? Don’t downvote and dodge. Answer the elementary level question.
I answered the question… no this shouldn’t affect congress doing their due diligence on behalf of the American people
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:28 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Here’s a poster who agrees that Congress can force someone to buy something.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:32 pm to lepdagod
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I answered the question… no this shouldn’t affect congress doing their due diligence on behalf of the American people
False. You did not. And it’s unexplainable why you will not.
So again. Yes or no. Since the democrats are for revoking tariffs, thus reducing revenue, they should also surrender their demand for trillions more spending and stop holding the government hostage.
There are two answers. One is yes. The other is no. Yes means they should surrender their demands…. No means they should demand trillions more spending while decreasing revenue.
Yes or no. Simple. Easy. Quick. We can find someone to assist you if you are having comprehension issues. Just say the word.
Now take a deep breath and focus. You can do this.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:39 pm to CleverUserName
I’ve said no numerous times
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:47 pm to lepdagod
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I’ve said no numerous times
So the democrats should force the government to stay closed, while voting against their own CR, to make Americans suffer for Trillions more in spending while there is a reduction in revenue.
So the deficit increases more, more money is printed, and the fire of inflation is further stoked.
All of which hurts the American consumer. And you have the fortitude to say “unfortunately for Trump they are about to be enforced”.
And undoubtedly you drones will cry about the deficit increase if the spending is approved.
Amazing. All to “get Trump” Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:47 pm to Padme
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Agreed, if they are going by the letter of the law, then how do you make the assumption/jump that they are taxing the American people? In some cases the goods may cost more, in some cases they might not, but it’s not for Robert’s to interject, but as mentioned, he did that with Obamacare. So even though it’s wrong to do that, he seems to not have a problem doing it.
Calling it a tax, like our libertarians love to do, oversimplifies it and these tactics are used to scare people rather than inform.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:49 pm to lepdagod
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I’ve said no numerous times
No you’ve been caught out because you don’t read enough.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 4:38 am to ABearsFanNMS
Every tariff has ostensibly been under some form of legislative authority, including Trump’s. However, this time Trump doesn’t come close to fitting under the statute because no emergency and no express legislative authorization to tariff as opposed to taking other acts. I think Trump takes an L here.
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