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re: Rise of Fentanyl Deaths in US

Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by Mike the Tiger 1999
Weston, Florida
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:46 pm to
Nah, it’s mailed here directly from China.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:46 pm to
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It's used in general surgery. It's 100 times stronger than morphine. A small amount goes a long way. People just make a simple mistake by using too much because they think they are using regular heroin. They go to sleep and never wake up. Respiratory failure.



Fentanyl was heavily used by the military at one point. Honestly, the military and by extension the VA has killed a lot of our vets by the way they were handing out opioids especially loratabs for decades. Solders basically telling VA docs what to give them. I have 4-5 friends that were doing the same thing. Imagine 120 10’mg loratab a month?

What’s even worse was there wasn’t anything these idiots did to try and quell the addiction!!! Fast forward to recently suboxin is now being used to wing vets off opioids. They should have been doing this for the past 5-10 years. God knows how many kids they killed.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:48 pm to
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Nah, it’s mailed here directly from China.


It’s both... Cartels are in the Fentanyl business more than people realize and it’s onky growing. Trump wants Xi to shutdown shipments to US but what about Mexico? That’s out the US hands.
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 12:51 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:49 pm to
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And guess what? It's even made in the US. It's only you guys had that same watchful eye on the pharmaceutical industry in the United States


Pretty sure you have to account for every oz. of Fentanyl produced, since it is highly controlled medically. You act as if the Pharm companies are making this and selling this on the streets. Ah, but there's the boogeyman for you. Big Scary Pharm.

But meanwhile, you all for open borders. Oh and how large was that fentanyl bust a few weeks back that came across the southern border? You know, the largest bust ever?
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:53 pm to
I think what’s happening is dealers are cutting their “heroin” with something relatively harmless like creatine and then adding fentanyl in it so that it doesn’t lose its potency. Then it’s sold on the street and people don’t know what they’re really taking. Also, fentanyl patches used to be given to terminal patients with a lot of pain or maybe just given out at prescription mills in Florida. People would take them not knowing that it was infinitely stronger than the hydros they had been taking recreationally.
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 12:54 pm
Posted by September 1948
Member since Jun 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:55 pm to
I believe MJ died from Propofol (sp). The others I don't know.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100640 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:58 pm to
It needs to be universally outlawed just like ludes were.

Fentanyl is scary because a lot of it isn’t direct use ODs. It’s because the dealers are using it to lace other drugs like weed and cocaine but if you don’t know it’s laced you will do too much very easily
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:09 pm to
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I believe MJ died from Propofol (sp). The others I don't know.


You're right, I'll change my post. The other two I double checked and they are right.
Posted by Tomherman
Member since Sep 2016
2053 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:09 pm to
120 10 mg a month isn't alot if you are in pain. I was talking much more than that when I broke my back and tailbone. And I was still in pain.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76957 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:09 pm to
It's nit picky as hell, but I wish the president would stop saying FentanOL.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18006 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:10 pm to
Natural selection
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100640 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:24 pm to
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but since it's so potent a slight miscalculation produces an overdose and kills the 'end user'.


It’s not so much a miscalculation but rather the user doesn’t know it’s in there. For example you could cut 1 gram of coke with it at the right measurements but what happens if you buy and snort an 8 ball? Dead
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100640 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:28 pm to
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The Russians used a mist form of it in 2002 to end a hostage situation, killing everyone including the hostages.


Only in Russia
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100640 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:32 pm to
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Imagine 120 10’mg loratab a month?


That’s nothing I had a couple friends who took 20-30 10mg Percocets a day. Thankfully they finally got help. Not sure how they’re alive tbh
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2388 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 3:58 pm to
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So you'd prefer that we go back to a failed tactic at combating the problem?



I'd prefer you walk over them gingerly while they rest in peace.
Posted by Desert King
Member since Oct 2018
1936 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 4:12 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 5:47 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Fentanyl was heavily used by the military at one point. Honestly, the military and by extension the VA has killed a lot of our vets by the way they were handing out opioids especially loratabs for decades. Solders basically telling VA docs what to give them. I have 4-5 friends that were doing the same thing. Imagine 120 10’mg loratab a month?


I don't know why people take loratabs. It's the worst. Loratab is mostly hydrocodone. I had a prescription when I had my wisdom teeth pulled took one and it made me completely nauseated. I had to lay still or I was going to blow chunks. How anyone likes that feeling is beyond me.

I'm just going to stick with the old reliable ethanol buzz.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23055 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 4:33 pm to
I personally believe we need MORE not less Fentanyl Deaths.

Fentanyl users, if they vote would probably vote Democrat anyway.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 4:37 pm to
The worst is morphine imo. It’s what they give Stage 3 cancer patients and a lot of people in hospice care. There is no pleasure it makes you sick to your stomach and fricks with your respiratory system big time.
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46112 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 4:44 pm to
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people have to turn to dangerous illegal drugs like marijuana and fentanyl

never change, gaucho
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