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re: RFK Jr. announcing independent bid for POTUS (Live link in post)

Posted on 10/9/23 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 4:19 pm to
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Thing is, he doesn't have to take enough states to win. Just denying either side a path to 270 and throwing the election to the House would be epically disruptive. I'd be wearing a Kevlar helmet if I were him.


I’d be surprised if he could win a state. When’s the last time an independent got electoral votes? George Wallace during desegregation?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 4:21 pm to
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Thing is, he doesn't have to take enough states to win.

He won’t get more than 3-5% in any state.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 4:23 pm to
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It’s mathematically possible to win. Clinton won in 92 with 43% of the vote.

Popular vote is totally meaningless.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 4:25 pm to
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When’s the last time an independent got electoral votes? George Wallace during desegregation?

I believe so.

The only way RFK impacts this election is if he siphons votes from one of the major candidates in places like Wisconsin where elections are razor thin like Stein did in 16. He’s zero threat to even compete in any state for Electoral votes.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 4:39 pm to
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I’d be surprised if he could win a state. When’s the last time an independent got electoral votes? George Wallace during desegregation?


When was the last time there was a significant challenger AND both parties had disapproval ratings well over 50%?

In 2016, the Libertarians and Greens were enough to ensure nobody (including Hillary) got a popular vote majority, but both candidates were lightweights.

Might end up saying the same thing about RFK, might not. The appetite from the people is historically high, though.



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