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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…

Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:33 am to
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:33 am to
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Happy to walk through the details of the trial phases, COVID’s scrutiny, or long-term safety if you’d like.


No thanks. I’m probably not educated enough to understand it.

I’m not an anti-vaxxer. But I do think the country is unhealthy and we probably need to make some major an uncomfortable changes to our medical system and industry. RFK may very well be a kook, but at least he’s asking the common sense questions and bucking the system. Why are we so unhealthy and so fat? Why do we have such high rates of cancer and autism? And more importantly what can we do about it? He might not have the correct answers but it doesn’t appear that the medical community does either.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22131 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:33 am to
All doctors are liars. They're compromised by big pharma. That's why I get all my medical advice from the guys I work turnarounds with. They're way smarter than any doctor I've ever met
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12392 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:35 am to
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Before I answer, let me emphasize that RFK was lying - witnesses are usually sworn for testimony and the chairman refused to ask him for sworn testimony. They knew he would come in and lie



Of course he did- *rolls eyes*. None of the people in that room have ever taken a dime from Big Pharma. They would NEVER grease palms to get things passed. Never…
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11470 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:35 am to
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All doctors are liars. They're compromised by big pharma.

Bro those Big Pharma checks be niiiicceeeee
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:36 am to
Let a thousand flowers of science communication bloom, baw.

I consider this practice for persuadables and there are people who are interested, even if they don't post.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22131 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:37 am to
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Why are we so unhealthy and so fat? Why do we have such high rates of cancer and autism? And more importantly what can we do about it? He might not have the correct answers but it doesn’t appear that the medical community does either.


The answer to this one is pretty simple. We have a fat, lazy populace who would rather take a pill or a shot than take preventative measures to ensure their own health. A doctor telling someone they need to improve their diet and exercise doesn't do much, so their health worsens, so doctors become more prone to giving them a pill or a shot that can cover up the health issues. Those pills have side effects, so they get another medicine to cover those, and so on. In the long run it's "healthier" for them to be on this cocktail of medicine than it is for them to have all the health issues that the medicine is covering, but unless people start taking their health seriously, that's what we're stuck with.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12392 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:38 am to
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Not all members of the Medical Community are created equal- hahahahahahahahaha
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
51023 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:38 am to
We already got two mad medical experts in here boys!

One of my first jobs in the legal world was suing the frick out of Merck for killing thousands of people with vioxx back in the early 2000s. Most of those killed were assured by their head nodding auto drone doctors.

Good times.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1608 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:39 am to
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RFK wants vaccines to be more feared, less available, more expensive, less used.
Was his anecdote about the fulton co study incorrect?

RFK is not the only person who is raising legit questions about child immunizations

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flu vaccinations
I don't think that's the kind of vaccine he's referring to
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:42 am to
I appreciate how you put this. There’s a lot of good sense in wanting a healthier country and in being willing to ask uncomfortable questions. I share that frustration. Every day our system often waits for people to get sick instead of helping them stay healthy. You’re right that RFK taps into that dissatisfaction, but the hard part is that the real fixes (better food systems, exercise, less pollution, access to preventive care) don’t come from dramatic “gotcha” answers, they come from steady, boring, evidence-based work that doesn’t always grab headlines.

What I’d encourage is: keep the skepticism, but point it toward solutions that actually have a track record of making people healthier - like reducing smoking did for cancer, or vaccines did for infectious disease, or seatbelts did for trauma. That way you’re not just “bucking the system,” you’re actually holding it accountable and helping it get better.
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 10:52 pm
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:43 am to
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The answer to this one is pretty simple. We have a fat, lazy populace who would rather take a pill or a shot than take preventative measures to ensure their own health. A doctor telling someone they need to improve their diet and exercise doesn't do much, so their health worsens, so doctors become more prone to giving them a pill or a shot that can cover up the health issues. Those pills have side effects, so they get another medicine to cover those, and so on. In the long run it's "healthier" for them to be on this cocktail of medicine than it is for them to have all the health issues that the medicine is covering, but unless people start taking their health seriously, that's what we're stuck with.


So in this sense RFK is right when he encourages people to exercise and get off all the meds. I can’t remember any other directors of HHS or Surgeon Generals trying to attack that problem.

We severely curtailed smoking in this country with a massive PR campaign, government regulations on the tobacco industry and general shaming of smoking. Perhaps the politicians and medical community could do the same thing. Ban fast food restaurants from advertising. Run a million PSAs on how being fat kills. But as it is now it seems like 75% of the ads on TV or for McDonalds and weight loss pills.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
51023 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:43 am to
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None of the people in that room have ever taken a dime from Big Pharma. They would NEVER grease palms to get things passed. Never…


The experts will ignore this, pretend it doesn’t exist, and sweep it away with a little brush.

They have complete faith in the pharmaceutical companies and the government agencies, whose executives are often interchangeable between the two, even after they have so openly lied to the American public.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
11470 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:43 am to
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I consider this practice for persuadables and there are people who are interested, even if they don't post.

You’re a better man than I. Dog, calculus, etc
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35072 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:45 am to
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Why are we so unhealthy and so fat? Why do we have such high rates of cancer and autism? And more importantly what can we do about it?


Seems like the types questions doctors should have been asking and demanding answers to.

Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1608 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:46 am to
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They knew he would come in and lie
You're a mind reader?

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early lab work, phased human trials, then ongoing safety monitoring after approval
1. A LOT of people don't trust the organizations who are performing the trials and monitoring - for good reason. Why do you trust them? It's been proven that big pharma has lied to people before and now we know the peer review process is corrupted, perhaps by a lot.

2. RFK is asking a question that has been growing for years; what is causing the rise of autism in young people? It's not like he doesn't have a reasonable suspicion of vaccines. He brings data to the discussion

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COVID vaccines didn’t skip those steps
Human trials were not performed PRIOR to the covid shots being widely distributed. From what I understand, they had only been used on mice, etc, prior to human application. Hence the EUA.

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No vaccine is 100% risk-free, but the risks are tiny compared to the diseases they prevent (this is critical to remember) and side effects almost always show up within weeks to months, not years
You make this statement like it's fact but it's being debated by people in the medical community and I'm not referring to RFK

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COVID’s scrutiny
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10327 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:47 am to
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Before I answer, let me emphasize that RFK was lying


Why kids given far more shots at an earlier age than those my age got as a child? Theres not an epidemic of these diseases amongst the population. Why the change?

People like you are why I have ZERO trust in medical community. Yall are sellout coward, morally bankrupt, swindlers
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1608 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:48 am to
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pubmed
Why do you trust people who have been proven to be lying to us? Are you gullible?
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 9:49 am
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1608 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:49 am to
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Bro those Big Pharma checks be niiiicceeeee

O'Keefe much?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43425 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:52 am to
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TigerDoc


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Onmydaddysdickgrind


The usual suspects. Like clockwork!

It’s like the liberal agenda beacon went off and sounded alarms!
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43425 posts
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:54 am to
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Before I answer, let me emphasize that RFK was lying


Were you lying for 10 years about Rudsiagate?

Did you have an agenda?

How do we know you don’t have an agenda or are lying now?
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