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re: Revealed tonight: one of the jurors in stone’s trial was a dem candidate for house in 2018

Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:04 am to
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13988 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:04 am to
Palmieri wasn't just a former communications director for Hillary Clinton. She was Hillary Clinton's communications director for her 2016 presidential campaign. It is ridiculous she was allowed to sit on a jury for a trial involving an individual connected to her election opponent.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54231 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:09 am to
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It is ridiculous she was allowed to sit on a jury for a trial involving an individual connected to her election opponent.



I thought the same thing about senators running for president being able to pass judgement in an impeachment trial.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5624 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:30 pm to
AggieHank86

quote:

This person was on the panel, and the judge declined to strike her for cause.

she is jus ONE of the veniremen, and the lawyers clearly felt she was bad-enough to exercise a peremptory strike to remove her from the panel


Federal court is a very weird animal when it comes to jury selection, at least from the civil side. For the most part, the venire fills out forms with questions. Then the judge asks questions the judge feels is relevant. Then the parties counsel submits quesitons to the judge that they either read or decline to read.

At that point, you are left with striking for cause or using your preemptory challenges - usually 3, none of which can be for race and requires heightened scrutiny.

The huge issues in this case are (1) what was the use of the preemptory challenges and (2) what was the form completed by the juror and submitted to the court.

I'm guessing as to future handling but I believe a Motion for New Trial, followed by appeal when denied, followed by Pardon by Trump after election.

Of course, there could be the court granting the new trial and the DOJ deciding not to prosecute but I put that below 20%
Posted by DimTigerDontHate
Member since Feb 2020
180 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 3:29 pm to
At least Hillary testified under oath. Has more balls than your president or his henchmen.
Posted by DimTigerDontHate
Member since Feb 2020
180 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 3:33 pm to
If you're not mad about the Senate impeachment trial, I cannot take you seriously when you pretend to be outraged by this.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5637 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:33 pm to
mistrial,her hubby works for the DOJ,HER SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS PROVE SHE WAS BIASED BEFORE THE TRIAL
Posted by DimTigerDontHate
Member since Feb 2020
180 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:50 pm to
Oh you mean like McConnel interviews proved he was biased before the Senate trial? And Graham... And Mulvaney admitted guilt on camera... And Trump admitted guilt on camera and in writing. Doesn't matter anymore bud, apparently anybody can do whatever they want in government now. We live by a different set of rules than these people. We are all being played.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14231 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

Roger Stone
now has immediate grounds for a mistrial.

On what grounds? Was she untruthful during jury selection?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14231 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:01 pm to
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Lol resorting to name calling.

Asswipe. You were the one that started that crap. Now you try to blame him. Pitiful.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:04 pm to
Asswipe!!!
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Hang on, Stones legal team thought it would be a good idea to have a black female on the panel? A clue might have been when the prosecution started high fiving after she was selected.



So you are a racist?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

DimTigerDontHate


Dumb arse.




The American PEOPLE elected Trump, not Stone.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Has nobody here read the indictments? Am I taking crazy pills? Sometimes I wonder why I even bother with you gentlemen...


Considering you just joined.... you have not had enough time to bother anybody.


Second.. stop being a sexist. Not everybody is male in politics you POS
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49850 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 9:07 pm to
Does no one else find it odd that out of the millions of people in the DC area, these are the people that were "randomly" selected for jury duty?

I mean I know DC is 96% Dem, but these people are not typical.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 9:39 pm to
Well Bucky, about 770K people in DC and 2-4 of the 12 are dem operatives?

Nothing to see there man
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2743 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

The American PEOPLE elected Trump, not Stone.


Actually they didn’t, Hillary won by 3 million votes.
Posted by Gator515151
orlando, fl
Member since Oct 2009
121 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

Oh you mean like McConnel interviews proved he was biased before the Senate trial? And Graham... And Mulvaney admitted guilt on camera... And Trump admitted guilt on camera and in writing. Doesn't matter anymore bud, apparently anybody can do whatever they want in government now. We live by a different set of rules than these people. We are all being played.


I think we elect Senators because they have opinions.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49850 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Well Bucky, about 770K people in DC and 2-4 of the 12 are dem operatives?

Nothing to see there man



Needs to pointed out more.

Just a bit too convenient.
Posted by Buddy Red
Maringouin, LA
Member since Aug 2007
279 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:18 pm to
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Federal court is a very weird animal when it comes to jury selection, at least from the civil side. For the most part, the venire fills out forms with questions. Then the judge asks questions the judge feels is relevant. Then the parties counsel submits quesitons to the judge that they either read or decline to read. At that point, you are left with striking for cause or using your preemptory challenges - usually 3, none of which can be for race and requires heightened scrutiny. The huge issues in this case are (1) what was the use of the preemptory challenges and (2) what was the form completed by the juror and submitted to the cour


I logged in to post this exact thought. Not sure how works in DC, but in MDLA, lawyers get to ask ZERO questions. All are filtered through the judge (except in rare circumstances). So the defense would likely have had no opportunity to explore this prejudice. Jury selection is quick, fast, and in a hurry. Nothing at all like state court. Absolute grounds for reversal. IMHO
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:22 pm to


^ supposed transcript of exchange during voire dire
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 11:23 pm
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