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re: Respect for Marriage Act passed by Senate. Goes to House for final vote.

Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

AggieHank86


quote:

"God forbid that we look at the actual language of the [LBGQ+ Polygamy+ / Bestial+ Marriage] legislation..."


Aaah, yes -- "looking at the language" AND "Legislation" -- two altogether different issues (as though any of us got a chance to look at this particular piece of LBGQ+ Guano.)

Other than citing "muh State" bullet points, *have* you actually "looked at the language *fine-print*??

Btw, it's NOT "God" who "forbids" the examination of "special" Acts like this garbage or 'The Patriot Act' for example; It's the Overlord subversives' any proposed Legislation that's been enacted in hours because *IF* read, examined and scrutinized without public debate or consent, said Guano would NOT not pass muster as heads rolled.

quote:

"God forbid that we look at the actual language....when arguing about what the legislation does"


Seriously now??

This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 1:18 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135779 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Hence Mick’s use of the word “bill” rather than “statute.”
No nitwit.
The bill must pass congressional muster. At that point language in the bill is finally set. The bill has not arrived at that stage. The bill is currently in the House pending approval. Then the bill is sent to the POTUS for his signature.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62817 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:16 pm to
Can't the courts say any federal legislation on those topics is unconstitutional if they take power away from states to legislate these areas?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:17 pm to
I read you post, and must ask one question … are you high?

Most of your posts are incomprehensible gibberish. This one more so than most.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298087 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:19 pm to
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Most of your posts are incomprehensible
it's already been determined that you're incapable of understanding unless it's written in legalese.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:21 pm to
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It has not passed, Mickey.


Mickey's defense of this Bill is built upon a lie.

He is arguing that the Politicians pursuing this bullshite will NOT do what they most certainly WILL do based on the wording of a Bill which has yet to be modified, changed and raped along it's way to being passed.

Mickey is a fool who takes Politicians, Lawyers and Judges at their word.

Reasonable people do NOT and are simply awaiting the wheeling, dealing, GOP caving and general fkery that ALWAYS accompanies a Bill such as this.

Before all is said and done and this is put to a final vote, Democrats WILL find a way to destroy the lives of normal, productive people who do not fall in line with their agenda.

Anyone who argues otherwise is a liar or a fool.

Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1014 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:22 pm to
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Here's the cheatsheet:

Tell me about the rights of two 18y/o's to elope and marry in Nebraska. Illegal.

Tell me about the right of an 11y/o w/ parental consent to marry a 30y/o in California. Legal.

How about, the right of that 11y/o w/ parental consent to marry a 30y/o in Arkansas. Illegal.

How does the US Constitution address those "rights"? It doesn't.

I am not arguing that a state or the fed cannot put in a reasonable curb on a persons right. I believe it is a fundamental right that two consenting have the right to marry. So for your cheat sheet, I would 1&2 are unconstitutional and 3 is not.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:23 pm to
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it's already been determined that you're incapable of understanding unless it's written in legalese.
I do quite well with Standard American English, thank you.

I am STILL trying to identify the language that Liberator was using. The words look like a form of English, for the most part, but the grammar and syntax are another matter entirely.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298087 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:25 pm to
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I believe it is a fundamental right that two consenting have the right to marry


Because you believe does not make it so.

Should cousins marry? Because many states don't allow first cousins to marry.
Posted by RainGame
Member since Nov 2022
22 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:27 pm to
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Can the Catholic Church be sued for refusing to marry a gay couple?


Being sued for this is the least of the reasons the Catholic Church should be worried about. If you know, you know.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135779 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:27 pm to
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I would 1&2 are unconstitutional
But they aren't.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:27 pm to
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I do quite well with Standard American English, thank you.


Grammar Nazi Hank DOES have problems differentiating between "accept" and "except", however.

Perhaps a local Community College offers a free remedial reading course hosted by Drag Queens....you should look into it.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26370 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:28 pm to
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The bill must pass congressional muster. At that point language in the bill is finally set. The bill has not arrived at that stage. The bill is currently in the House pending approval. Then the bill is sent to the POTUS for his signature.



This bill is unlikely to change at this point. The big hurdle was getting Senate approval. Now that it has, the House won't risk it going back to the Senate again. Especially given the fact that they are running out of time to get it passed.

It is extremely likely that this current version of the bill which just passed the Senate will pass in the House next week, then get signed into law by Biden.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1014 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:29 pm to
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Where is marriage in the Constitution?

One of the big fears of James Madison when he wrote the Bill of Rights would be that the masses would believe that if it is not listed specifically in the Constitution that they would believe that right does not exist. You are who he was worried about.

Here's what he said in relation to the BoR."The exceptions here or elsewhere in the constitution, made in favor of particular rights, shall not be so construed as to diminish the just importance of other rights retained by the people".
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135779 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:30 pm to
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It is extremely likely
I'd agree with that. But as they say, "Many a slip between the cup and the lip."
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:30 pm to
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This bill is unlikely to change at this point. ....It is extremely likely .......


Faith in Democrat Politicians?

Idiot.....
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135779 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:32 pm to
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One of the big fears of James Madison when he wrote the Bill of Rights would be that the masses would believe that if it is not listed specifically in the Constitution that they would believe that right does not exist.
... and then, there was Amendment Ten.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:35 pm to
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One of the big fears of James Madison when he wrote the Bill of Rights would be that the masses would believe that if it is not listed specifically in the Constitution that they would believe that right does not exist.




I can see Madison now. "Well of COURSE the supreme court can tell the states they must recognize gay marriage! Duh!!".
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1014 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:35 pm to
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I would 1&2 are unconstitutional
But they aren't.

Just because it is a law, does not make it constitutional. Have either of those three been challenged to the SC?

How about this. Would it be unconstitutional for a state to pass a law that could arrest you for having sex with another consenting adult?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:36 pm to
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consenting adult?


You keep using this term like it means something.
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