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re: Republicans will Try Again (and Fail Again) to Repeal the ACA

Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:28 am to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:28 am to
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when premiums rise for people eligible for subsidies, somebody has to pay for the necessary increase in subsidies?


Good thing premiums are increasing at an historically slow rate!
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15421 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:32 am to
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Of course I do - I'd hope that Congress can address the 3% of the population that falls into this category without harming the other 97%. Unfortunately, Republicans in Congress don't seem to want that.
That's because it's not possible.

The 97 will always bear the cost.

Since you're for it you can volunteer to pay for everyone who isn't.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19699 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:33 am to
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actually, he has done quite well within the first 100 days
no, he has to have accomplished his entire agenda already. Just like Obama, who was able to close gitmo, or who immediately acknowledged the wwi armenian genocide like he repeatedly promised to in his campaign, or like how if you like your insurance you can keep it, etc...
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:34 am to
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what are the bullet points of his plan?




The Obamacare Replacement Act


It's 4 pages.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:34 am to
Quite well...with the lowest approval rating for a new president in the history of the office of the presidency. Quite well indeed.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:36 am to
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That's because it's not possible.


It's absolutely possible.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19699 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:36 am to
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It's absolutely possible.
if only you believe enough
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15421 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:38 am to
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Good thing premiums are increasing at an historically slow rate!
So those recent 60-100% increases are good?
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:39 am to
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I wish they would move on to tax reform and come back to this later.


Problem is the cuts to poor people in this help make room for even bigger tax cuts for the rich when it comes to the tax reform agenda.

That's mostly why Ryan has admitted not passing this makes tax reform harder.

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:41 am to
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So those recent 60-100% increases are good?


Get out of here with your anecdotal stuff. Pretty soon, he'll pull out the charts and graphs of EXTREMELY cherrypicked data to "prove" you wrong.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140424 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:41 am to
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Good thing premiums are increasing at an historically slow rate!


increasing deductibles or cost shifting to the patient are great at slowing the premium increases.

Works

Every

Time
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21895 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:42 am to
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So those recent 60-100% increases are good?


Of course not, but they do not represent the norm. Blowing up the entire system rather than helping to eliminate these outliers is a terrible and ignorant response.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:43 am to
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You would be wrong.


You can keep your health plan.
You can keep your doctor.
Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center
Expand eligibility for Medicaid
Create a public "Contracts and Influence" database
Increase the supply of affordable housing throughout metropolitan regions
Advance the biomedical research field (Funding decreased)
Eliminate all oil and gas tax loopholes
Expand the child and dependent care credit
Require publicly traded financial partnerships to pay the corporate income tax
Close loopholes in the corporate tax deductibility of CEO pay
Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners
Provide option for a pre-filled-out tax form
Require automatic enrollment in 401(k) plans

Oh, really?
Maybe you just weren't paying attention.

ETA
I can look for a few more, if you would like.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 11:45 am
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:44 am to
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actually, he has done quite well within the first 100 days


He's really nailed it with all that meaningful legislation passed. Like letting ISP's sell your data without your consent and making it easier for businesses that abuse their workers to get government contracts.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140424 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:45 am to
You seem like a CNBC type of shill.

Enjoy...


UH, premiums and deductibles too, yikes
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15421 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:45 am to
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Of course not, but they do not represent the norm. Blowing up the entire system rather than helping to eliminate these outliers is a terrible and ignorant response.
They aren't outliers, they're part of a trend.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48314 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:46 am to
It's been less than 4 months. Calm down. Obamacare will be gone. Just be patient.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140424 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:47 am to
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Average Increase in 2017 Benchmark Premium for HealthCare.gov States 25%


25% AVERAGE increase for ACA in 2017

I'll have to see if I can find 2016 commercial increases as 2017 data isn't available obviously.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15421 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:48 am to
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quote:
That's because it's not possible.


It's absolutely possible.
No, it isn't.

It simply cannot be done. Unless you eradicate freedom, which we know you'd love
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:48 am to
Screw bullet points.

It's only 4 pages long.

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