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re: Republicans Fail to See the Biggest Issue Costing them Undecided Voters
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:24 am to RFK
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:24 am to RFK
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But they see the issue not necessarily as one of a decision to have an abortion or not, but as a politician making a choice for them that they feel should be their’s to make, whatever that choice may be.
They get so butthurt (or vag hurt) over the prospect of someone they don’t know not being allowed to kill their yet to be born CHILD.
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:26 am to Penrod
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The trouble is locating that point on the continuum at which we can get a solid majority consensus.
Yeah?
That's the trouble?
Getting a majority consensus?
What happens when the majority consensus is that you don't need any guns and the majority doesn't want you to have any?
Or that the 1st Amendment can go pound sand if they don't like what you have to say?
Y'all don't act like morons.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:34 am to HogBalls
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Worst mistake the GOP has made is being the face of abortion bans. I’m conservative as they come but am to the point I support abortions. We should be praising abortions, encouraging them actually. It’s mainly left wing nut jobs and dregs of society “give me free shite” Democrat voters having abortions.
Why would I want to protect their offspring?? So they can grow up and vote to push the country further over the edge??
It’s like protecting your enemies offspring so they can grow up and conquer you.
Exactly. If conservatives were smart and they arent they would focus on encouging these loons to do this, show the consequences and focus heavy on fixing the adoption issue
You cant fix their brains and there lump of cells talking point
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:44 am to RFK
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But they see the issue not necessarily as one of a decision to have an abortion or not, but as a politician making a choice for them that they feel should be their’s to make, whatever that choice may be.
So terminating a helpless, voiceless unborn life is a choice that should be “woman’s right” ?? That’s a pathetic stance and your wife should be ashamed. I know plenty of women, including my wife (who has a law degree), that are solidly against abortion.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:13 pm to HogBalls
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I’m conservative as they come but am to the point I support abortions.
I am as conservative as they come. No one is more conservative than me. Now let me tell you why I am in favor of this far-left position.
(Said every Trump Cult Populist ever).
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Why would I want to protect their offspring?
Because if you idiot populists could think even 1 1/2 moves ahead you'd see that every stance you take (or don't) has implications that are eventually applied to other things besides the specific application right in front of your faces.
In this case the right to life. Which has one hell of a lot of implications that can be applied to other things.
In fact, if you don't have a right to not be killed, what other rights could you possibly have?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:19 pm to westerntigerfan
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Pass a federal limit on abortion at somewhere between 14 and 24 weeks, just like every civilized country on the planet has. 60% - 75% of Americans agree with this, depending on the number of weeks
"Civilized" nations and people don't kill babies because they may be an inconvenience.
What if we were discussing euthanizing all people on welfare for over a year? Same principle. They are an inconvenience, right?
ETA... It's always bongled my mind that those most pro abortion tend to also be the most opposed to the death penalty. The baby has done nothing more than be conceived. Those on death row have proven they are unable to function in a "civilized" society.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:27 pm to HogBalls
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Worst mistake the GOP has made is being the face of abortion bans. I’m conservative as they come but am to the point I support abortions. We should be praising abortions, encouraging them actually. It’s mainly left wing nut jobs and dregs of society “give me free shite” Democrat voters having abortions.
Why would I want to protect their offspring?? So they can grow up and vote to push the country further over the edge??
It’s like protecting your enemies offspring so they can grow up and conquer you.
You people don’t hate these democrats enough. I hate that I feel this way but war is hell and we are in one against leftist scum.
Also, this may be helpful.
If the idea of it being legal to kill 800,000 innocent human beings every year in this country alone doesn't bother you, you're a psychopath.
I understand why you're confused by those of us who are bothered by that.
Unfortunately, there's no way I can explain it to you so that you understand.
Psychologists aren't sure why 98% of us have empathy and 2% of us don't and they can't identify exactly what it is that you lack from a normal psychological makeup.
All the other stuff that you have identified that we feel that you don't? All the stuff that you fake to get long in society and manipulate others with?
This is just another one of those.
Just pay it no mind, you will never understand it.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:31 pm to RFK
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But they see the issue not necessarily as one of a decision to have an abortion or not, but as a politician making a choice for them that they feel should be their’s to make, whatever that choice may be.
Killing babies isn’t their choice to make.
It’s amazing to me that women will ignore socialism, Marxism, communism, and tons of other west-ending policies all because they can’t see past abortion. A choice 99% of normal women will never be faced with.
They will let politicians take every other freedom from them because they want the idea of bodily autonomy that they actually wouldn’t have under a communist regime government
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:34 pm to RFK
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You can extrapolate that to a vasectomy as well…
I mean, you actually cannot... at all. But whatever. You keep on white knighting for killing babies.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:35 pm to llfshoals
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Then at least 85% will be wrong.
A is A.
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People can tell themselves whatever lies they can live with. The scientific fact that from the moment of fertilization a new human is created is an unalterable fact.
THERE is that framing again
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:36 pm to wackatimesthree
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I understand why you're confused by those of us who are bothered by that.
Unfortunately, there's no way I can explain it to you so that you understand.
Psychologists aren't sure why 98% of us have empathy and 2% of us don't and they can't identify exactly what it is that you lack from a normal psychological makeup.
HOLY shite
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:37 pm to dalefla
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The baby has done nothing more than be conceived. Those on death row have proven they are unable to function in a "civilized" society.
This is why Republicans lose
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:47 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:And how do you remove empathy from abortion?
Psychologists aren't sure why 98% of us have empathy and 2% of us don't and they can't identify exactly what it is that you lack from a normal psychological makeup.
Just lie to everyone that the unborn child is neither a child, nor is it human.
Why do you think liberals absolutely lose their minds when you call the unborn child a baby? They can’t handle the truth.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I get that you have great difficulty accepting the truth.
THERE is that framing again
A is A
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:50 pm to llfshoals
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I get that you have great difficulty accepting the truth.
A is A
A vast majority of the country and civilized society on earth disagrees with you.
You're showing why people fear your type and won't even believe Republicans if they adopted a universal policy that's palatable to them.
Which means more Democrats in power, which means more abortions.
But you value virtue signaling more than actual results.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:56 pm to RFK
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Here’s what I’ve learned from 3 women close to me over the past 2 elections
What I've learned is women will lead you to ruin. End of discussion.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:And yet not one can disprove my statement.
A vast majority of the country and civilized society on earth disagrees with you.
A bunch, including you wish it were not true and go to great lengths to lie about it.
quote:Fear? Yes I suppose they fear the truth because it’s inconvenient. I’m not interested in their tender sensibilities, I’m interested in the truth. You are not.
You're showing why people fear your type and won't even believe Republicans if they adopted a universal policy that's palatable to them.
quote:which you’re in favor of. You’re more interested in power than protecting children. That much is plain.
Which means more Democrats in power, which means more abortions.
quote:The result of every single abortion is a dead child. You can’t admit that truth, can’t refute it in any way.
But you value virtue signaling more than actual results.
You’re just ok with it for the sake of power.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is why Republicans lose
No. Republicans lose election because they believe in being responsible. Majority of liberal voters are irresponsible and believe shite is free.
FWIW, I'm ok with abortion because I know most are liberals killing their own offspring which means less morons even though in my heart I know it's murder and irresponsible.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:59 pm to RFK
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The number one issue that keeps them from fully embracing the GOP is their immovable stance on abortion
Hate to say I told you so, but.....
Crime.. pfft we know
Inflation.. pfft. We know
Abortion... Don't you dare tell what to do or we will vote Democrat.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:19 pm to llfshoals
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A 1 week old fetus that is not human cannot become one. Is not possible, the fetus would have to be removed from the womb and replaced with something different for your statement to be true.
That is a belief. You can’t prove that. Things can change into something else without being replaced. Some male frogs change into female frogs. Tadpoles turn into frogs. Caterpillars turn into butterflies.
And most people disagree with you. Whether we believe this or not, most people do. Therefore it is impossible to outlaw it unless we take over government by force. The logic of compromise, then, is inescapable. If we take your hard line approach the Democrats will win elections and there will be no limits, and therefore MORE abortions. This is what Trump realizes, and this is why his retrenching is the right thing to do. Win the election so that reasonable people can set the compromise.
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