re: Republican Swampers looking to pass amnesty for millions

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That’s what this legislation does

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Not true! No legislation is needed to issue a green card.

If we do away with bithright US citizenship how will we decide who a citizen is? A test of language and civil politics at what? Age 3? And what will be their citizenship until then?

What’s really the alternative?

Deport millions? It’s logistically impossible.

Why not start collecting taxes from them?

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And as you said, get the border locked down prior to any discussion on said amnesty.

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This is all academic then, because this will never happen. Too many folks on the right and left want the border open. Although we are already pretty far down that road for mixed reasons (not all illegal immigrants fault, IOW), but it will be the ultimate end of traditional America.

Wave after wave of millions of folks who do not share our culture, our language, our traditions and no time is allowed for assimilation (typically, we would like a generation, generation and a half) before another wave pours in.

I'm not trying to be heartless - these are human beings and just trying to make their way in the world the best they can. But, people are people and they come here and try to make America the place they fled. That, I don't understand.

And we can't take everyone. So, we have to draw the line somewhere.

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This is all academic then, because this will never happen. Too many folks on the right and left want the border open. Although we are already pretty far down that road for mixed reasons (not all illegal immigrants fault, IOW), but it will be the ultimate end of traditional America.

Wave after wave of millions of folks who do not share our culture, our language, our traditions and no time is allowed for assimilation (typically, we would like a generation, generation and a half) before another wave pours in.

I'm not trying to be heartless - these are human beings and just trying to make their way in the world the best they can. But, people are people and they come here and try to make America the place they fled. That, I don't understand.

And we can't take everyone. So, we have to draw the line somewhere.

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You've spoken a lot of hard truths that politicians never address. And I mostly agree with the exception of not assimilating - at least as a blanket statement.

I lived in a entry home neighborhood for several years with several illegal immigrants living around me. We'd BBQ and drink beer on the front lawn frequently. I also went to school with some illegals. They went to church, spoke english fluently, had great family values, and worked hard jobs. They were very much living an American value life. On the heartless comment, I'd feel heartless shipping them back to Mexico where they'd have no quality of life and no way to make a good life for them or their family. You see a lot of news stories about illegals committing various crimes, but the illegals I knew, none of them were un-assimilated and I generally use my personal experience over one off stories you get in the news. I'm 100% conservative, but this is probably the one topic that I don't see entirely eye to eye with the party line.

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 On the heartless comment, I'd feel heartless shipping them back to Mexico where they'd have no quality of life and no way to 

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What? That's their homeland? That's cruel? How about the billions of others who have less than ideal homelands. Should we feel cruel because we dont take them in?

They broke the law, they go back. Feelings make for poor governance.