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re: Report: Mifsud’s secret recording is the predicate for Durham criminal inquiry

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Posted by selfgen
youngsville
Member since Aug 2006
1162 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 3:14 pm to
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Which means, papa d was setup through a push/pull


push/pull? ive heard this term used in reference to millitary aircraft, ive heard it used in electonics and even in regards to male female relationships. but what does it mean in political sphere?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66431 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 3:18 pm to
Bongino explains that the intel services send a bunch of people to a target to "dirty" him up with info (push). Then, they send other people to get the dirty info out of him (pull).
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 3:43 pm to
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after some looking, this is the official story (and it's from The AP so i hope you won't attack the messeage

It's a Washington Times article not an AP sourced article. Try again.
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The FBI by then knew the Russian military was hacking Democratic computers in 2015 and 2016. Papadopoulos did not.

That's rank conjecture at best.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 3:51 pm to
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They didn't exonerate Trump. They said they didn't have enough evidence.

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you sound like a soviet propagandist. think about what you just said

I take exonerate to mean a lack of any evidence.
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why did you skip the first question?

The first question makes no sense to me. It seems to suggest that Misfit was not a Western asset.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138060 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 3:55 pm to
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texridder

Schiff is gonna prove muh Russia. Trump feels the walls closing in.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 4:55 pm to
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Texshidder, you agree that the Weismann Report concluded that, after nearly two years, they could find no evidence of coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia

My problem is dealing with people like you who have no idea what they are talking about.

The Mueller Report didn't say they found no evidence. What they did say was
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After considering the available evidence, the Office did not pursue charges under these statutes against any of the individuals

It also said
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statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts.”

The decision not to prosecute rested on the conclusion that:
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government has not obtained admissible evidence that is likely to establish the scienter requirement beyond a reasonable doubt.

In other words, they couldn't prove intent beyond a reasonable doubt.

Now where have I heard that before?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 5:23 pm to
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In other words, they couldn't prove intent beyond a reasonable doubt.


Can you point out the word "intent" in what your c/p?

If not, in other words, you're just making that up.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24083 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:24 pm to
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push/pull? ive heard this term used in reference to millitary aircraft, ive heard it used in electonics and even in regards to male female relationships. but what does it mean in political sphere?


You push information onto a target from one of your sources. Then you pull the same information from the target using a second source. You use the exchange of the information that you coerced as justification for surveillance, warrants, arrest, etc.

It’s a form of framing.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75012 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:52 pm to
You're gonna need something that predates yesterday to be the smartest guy in the room when it comes to Mifsud's connections to Brennan.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:58 pm to
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government has not obtained admissible evidence that is likely to establish the scienter requirement beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Can you point out the word "intent" in what your c/p?
If not, in other words, you're just making that up.

Ok. Let's try this. Is there any word in my post that you didnt know the meaning of?

Ok. Good. You didn't know the meaning of scienter. If you didn't know the meaning, why didn't you look it up before you posted?

I don't want to put you out, so here is the definition:
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Scienter is a legal term for intent or knowledge of wrongdoing.

An offending party then has knowledge of the "wrongness" of an act or event prior to committing it.


Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75012 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:01 pm to
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texridder


So you're telling us that NO ONE, throughout the course of the spying on personnel within the Trump campaign with the express intent of getting within 2 hops of the nominee of a major political party thought they were doing anything wrong, particularly when they pushed 100% fabricated "evidence" to a FISC judge to do it?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:05 pm to
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government has not obtained admissible evidence that is likely to establish the scienter requirement beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Can you point out the word "intent" in what your c/p?
If not, in other words, you're just making that up.

Ok. Let's try this. Is there any word in my post that you didnt know the meaning of?

Ok. Good. You didn't know the meaning of scienter. If you didn't know the meaning, why didn't you look it up before you posted?

I don't want to put you out, so here is the definition:
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Scienter is a legal term for intent or knowledge of wrongdoing.

An offending party then has knowledge of the "wrongness" of an act or event prior to committing it.

EDIT: In my post I commented that I seemed to have remembered where someone was not prosecuted because of lack of intent?

What does that remind you of?
This post was edited on 10/26/19 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84064 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:11 pm to
DixRider muh intent!

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This post was edited on 10/26/19 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26885 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:18 pm to
I guess this is the latest evolution.

- there was no spying, conspiracy nuts
- there was some spying but Trump wasn't the target
- there was spying on Trump but it was justified and Mueller will prove it
- there was spying but nobody knew they were doing anything wrong

Do you think anybody actually believes that bullshite or do they just throw it out there because they've run out of excuses?
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2317 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:26 pm to
Muh denial!

Muh living in an alternate universe!

Muh got the sads!
Posted by Hunt1010
Monticello AR
Member since Jul 2019
68 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:56 pm to
Why don’t you admit that you’re wrong about everything like a man and save what little dignity you have left.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 8:59 pm to
Look at that wall of worthless text.

None of the shite you post is coming to pass.

Everything you dread is.


Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:03 pm to
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So you're telling us that NO ONE, throughout the course of the spying on personnel within the Trump campaign with the express intent of getting within 2 hops of the nominee of a major political party thought they were doing anything wrong, particularly when they pushed 100% fabricated "evidence" to a FISC judge to do it?

You should have read the post I was responding you.

My post was quoting the Mueller Report about the evidence they found and why they didn't charge anyone from the Trump campaign.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:16 pm to
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Why don’t you admit that you’re wrong about everything like a man and save what little dignity you have left.


I'm wondering why -- if I've been wrong about everything -- you have not posted a response to a single one of my posts, demonstrating how it was so obviously wrong?

Why is that?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84064 posts
Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:17 pm to
People are weary of your stupidity.

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