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re: Report: Louisiana Republican Senator May Sink Effort to Override Constitutional Carry Veto

Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:33 am to
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The Louisiana Sheriffs' Association must've gotten to him.



All they're doing is delaying implementation of CC by a couple years.

After 2023, when we have a finally GOP Governor whether it be Jeff Landry, John Schroder or someone else paired with a GOP legislature, that bill will be passed and signed into law and there will not be shite those Boss Hogg wannabes can do about it.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62823 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:58 am to
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After 2023, when we have a finally GOP Governor whether it be Jeff Landry, John Schroder...


You're putting way too much faith in the same folks who elected JBE twice. I see another round of "Republicans for (insert name of Democrat candidate)" in our future.

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GOP legislature...


...is about as useful as tits on a boar, at least in Louisiana.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4865 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:00 pm to
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but Republicans are a bunch of limp dicked losers.

You misspelled, greedy, I don't give a frick as long as I get something.
Posted by Dingdong Stabbins
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2021
13 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:08 pm to
Once again I'd like to thank the idiots of Jefferson Parish for ensuring JBL got re-elected...
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112875 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:09 pm to
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The Hayride notes that Connick is allegedly “trading his vote to override for infrastructure funding in his district.”


local politics baby.

but, the genius of the system is that fricker will be facing his voters and his opponent will hammer this.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63045 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:11 pm to
It's pushback from sheriffs, for sure. They don't want to give up that CC permit money.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8087 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:13 pm to
Back when everybody was saying the legislation was “veto proof” I somehow knew this would play out as a loss.

Our system of government is so screwed. The last thing elected officials do is represent their constituents wishes.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:17 pm to
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I see another round of "Republicans for (insert name of Democrat candidate)" in our future.


After 8 years of John Bel Edwards betraying his promises to govern as a conservative blue dog Dixiecrat?

The professional RINOs that put money behind JBE may do so again with a different democrat but they're not going to get as much support as they did in 2015 and 2019. Hell, they lost a lot of support in 2019 even if it wasn't enough for JBE to lose but he did lose several parishes that he won in 2015 including the one I live in right now.

Even if they run another generic inoffensive white male democrat, he's still going to be tarred and feathered as the next JBE that's lying about about being a conservative blue dog democrat.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

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...is about as useful as tits on a boar, at least in Louisiana.



CC passed with insanely high margins this year even if it's one vote short of a veto override. No reason it can't have the same margins in 2024.

With a GOP governor that promises to sign CC, we won't have to worry about the herculean task of putting together a supermajority to pass a bill.

Simple majority will work out just fine.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11720 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:23 pm to
This is utterly confusing to me. Most major infrastructure spending is in HB1 or HB2 each year. The Governor can offer up some already allocated grant money, but he doesn’t have carte Blanche to relocate funds directly into this district without going through an existing program.

That said, the reasons above are the exact reasons a Speaker of the House with any semblance of balls (Schexnayder has none) could frick this dude back into line. All he has to tell him is, “Sure, take the Governor’s money and flip. Next year, not one single bill of yours will get out of committee, and I will make sure there isn’t a penny for your district in any spending bill next year. In fact, I’ll amend the spending bills to state that no discretionary funds can be used for programs in your district. Now, which deal do you want?”

But again. We haven’t had a rabble rouser ina while, and Schexnayder is firmly in JBE’s pocket.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62823 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:26 pm to
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Sentrius


I hope you're right.

Whom do you think will be the Democratic candidate? Is Mitch "Monuments Man" Landrieu out of the question?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:27 pm to
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a Speaker of the House with any semblance of balls (Schexnayder has none) could frick this dude back into line. All he has to tell him is, “Sure, take the Governor’s money and flip. Next year, not one single bill of yours will get out of committee, and I will make sure there isn’t a penny for your district in any spending bill next year. In fact, I’ll amend the spending bills to state that no discretionary funds can be used for programs in your district. Now, which deal do you want?”



That would only work if we had a conservative Speaker that really cared about defeating JBE and advancing conservative values.

Spoiler Alert: Clay Schexnayder is not a conservative and he owes his post as Speaker to JBE giving him enough democrat votes so he will not do anything to harm JBE and is only allowing this session to happen because the pressure from activists was more intense than normal and he needed a valve to let this steam off.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14984 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:27 pm to
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This is utterly confusing to me. Most major infrastructure spending is in HB1 or HB2 each year. The Governor can offer up some already allocated grant money, but he doesn’t have carte Blanche to relocate funds directly into this district without going through an existing program.


A project can get into HB2 but it will never happen unless the governor forwards the project to the Bond Commission for a line of credit. That is, the governor has unilateral, unappealable total ability to bury a project.

This is one of the biggest powers of the governor that people are not aware of.

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Whom do you think will be the Democratic candidate?



Scuttlebutt is that they're looking at Gary Smith from LaPlace to be the next JBE. A completely generic inoffensive white male democrat to fool Louisiana's sheep voters again and lie about being a conservative Dixiecrat.

But the last several statewide races outside of Governor have had black democrats run there and furthermore, black democrats vastly outnumber white democrats in the house and senate. They're itching to take control of the party from the white folks.

It wouldn't shock me if we get a black democrat.

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Is Mitch "Monuments Man" Landrieu out of the question?


Absolutely.

He's too partisan and too much of a national democrat to win statewide.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27636 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:33 pm to
The sheriffs and police chiefs are a powerful lobby,
Posted by Wolfmanjack
Member since Jun 2017
1205 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:34 pm to
(504)371-0240

Mr connicks office phone number. Give him a call and let him know what a piece of shite he is.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14984 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:35 pm to
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Spoiler Alert: Clay Schexnayder is not a conservative and he owes his post as Speaker to JBE giving him enough democrat votes so he will not do anything to harm JBE and is only allowing this session to happen because the pressure from activists was more intense than normal and he needed a valve to let this steam off.


Actually have a different take. I think he is quite conservative but isn't a very good speaker. That is, he is trying to be too much of a nice guy and trying to get everyone to get along.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:44 pm to
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but isn't a very good speaker.


And yet he's arrogant enough to not realize this and not humble enough to give up his post to someone who can be an effective manager and get real results.

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he is trying to be too much of a nice guy and trying to get everyone to get along.


Then he's in the wrong business and has no business being here.

Politics is a contact sport and it's not a time to be nice.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52597 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:59 pm to
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You can always count on a Republican to flip ... Democrats stick together no matter the consequences

False! The democrats wanted to get rid of the filibuster, but Manchin and one other refused, leaving them two votes short.

I commonly read left wing sites, and their constant theme is that Republicans always hang together, and if only Democrats would. This is just like every teams' fans thinking:

1. The calls always go against us
2. Our team has a unique tendency to play down to the competition
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50991 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 1:09 pm to
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The GOP must die.
Good idea. If he can't be there to vote against the bill, then how does that work out?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27699 posts
Posted on 7/20/21 at 1:09 pm to
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unless the governor forwards the project to the Bond Commission for a line of credit. That is, the governor has unilateral, unappealable total ability to bury a project.


I didn’t realize the Governor had that sole power.

So what happened when Kathleen Blanco and John Kennedy sunk the Hines/Odom Bunkie Sugar Mill. Did she agree to promote it to the Bond Commission then pushed to kill it?
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