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re: Rep. Thomas Massie Announces He Will Join Forces with MTG to Oust Johnson as Speaker
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He has little power to do anything against that.
Let an entitlement program be threatened to shut down because they can't agree on a spending bill and see how fast the Democrats play ball. Let the MIC think their budget is going to be cut and see how fast the RINO's come to the table. There are positions he can take to wield the power he does have, but he won't do it at the behest of being called a "meanie" by Democrats. Make the Democrats explain why they can't get funding for their districts needs.
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If this somehow happens, Matt Gaetz will go down as engineering one of the dumbest forms of virtue signaling in American political history
Johnson did it. He knew full well motion to vacate was possible, but he did it anyway.
All he had to do was do nothing.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Who doesn't know the Senate and President are DEMs?
A non-answer.
Johnson is openly FOR what he is voting for. He's not powerless. He's not trapped. He's not forced. He is voting and doing what he wants. There is no evidence to the contrary.
The idea that this is just some unfortunate situation and if we had more republicans things would be different is just not true. There is nothing to suggest that is true.
Johnson is doing just what he wants to do. The "powerless" schtick is just a psy-op.
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:15 pm to Swazla
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Trump's instincts will get us where we need to go
Political instincts? Really?
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:17 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Republicans had full control of Congress from 2015-2018 and did frick all with it.
Exactly, GOP is run by worthless losers
"We just didn't have ENOUGH of a majority"
It's endless excuses.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:20 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Johnson is openly FOR what he is voting for. He's not powerless. He's not trapped. He's not forced. He is voting and doing what he wants. There is no evidence to the contrary.
The idea that this is just some unfortunate situation and if we had more republicans is just not true. There is nothing to suggest that is true.
Johnson is doing just what he wants to do. The "powerless" schtick is just a psy-op.
I don't really believe this as up until he was speaker he was very much against these things.
Instead I think the job is too big for him and he is going along to get along in an attempt to get through the elections where he hopes to get a real majority versus the razor thin margin he currently has.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:21 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
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Because of that slim majority, any person that follows him is going to have just as weak of a position as Speaker, because you have this small faction that threatens a motion to vacate if everything is not done to their satisfaction, as it relates to working within reality (divided government). You have a Republican majority with 20+ seats, and you don't face this issue.
Who said they have to do anything? He could have funded the basic government functions and sat on his hands until November.
But noooo! They had to pass 1.2 trillion and expand FISA.
Johnson is responsible for whatever happens next. He knew full well.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:22 pm to Lg
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Why? Is it not the responsibility of the leaders in the party to hold those accountable for their actions? All Speaker Johnson had to do was keep his word. Strange how every Republican Speaker can't just do what they say they are going to do.
This. Even more strange is the supposed conservatives who put the blame on those demanding accountability, rather than those who can't or won't do what they said they would do.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:24 pm to BuckyCheese
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I don't really believe this as up until he was speaker he was very much against these things.
Instead I think the job is too big for him and he is going along to get along in an attempt to get through the elections where he hopes to get a real majority versus the razor thin margin he currently has.
Here, let me play press secretary. If what you say is true, this is what he should say:
"To all of the conservatives out there, and especially the people from my home district in Louisiana, where I have repeatedly stated that I am against the things we are voting for today, let me say that I am begrudgingly taking this path. It's not the path I want, but it's the path the majority of the party wants to take. As speaker, it's my job to do what is best for the party, even if that means doing things that I disagree with."
Instead, he is openly promoting these bills as things he agrees with and WANTS. That's a lot different than just "going along"
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:25 pm to Jjdoc
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Rep. Thomas Massie Announces He Will Join Forces with MTG to Oust Johnson as Speaker
So, they got rid of swamp to replace it with swamp. Now, they're getting rid of swamp to inevitably replace it with more swamp. During a time of a razor thin "majority".
This is why the GOPe is naught but the controlled opposition wing of the Establishment Uniparty. And this is why conservative America is rapidly dying.
Aren't we overdue for an errant asteroid or comet impact??
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Instead, he is openly promoting these bills as things he agrees with and WANTS. That's a big difference than just "going along"
No, it's not.
I don't like his messaging but saying what you propose is laughable.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:30 pm to BuckyCheese
So if you are forced to do something, you pretend to be for it? As an elected politician?
We all understand compromise is part of the game, but you don't have to be FOR what you are being supposedly forced into doing.
He seems giddy to vote for it and is openly promoting that which you claim he is doing against his will.
We all understand compromise is part of the game, but you don't have to be FOR what you are being supposedly forced into doing.
He seems giddy to vote for it and is openly promoting that which you claim he is doing against his will.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, if the GOP hadn't been tanked in 2022 by abortion,
You think this is what tanked the party? How about in 2016 when Republicans had both Houses and the Presidency and couldn't get their head out of their asses to repeal Obamacare. Because of, you guessed it, a Republicans who's feelings got hurt.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:32 pm to Lg
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How about in 2016 when Republicans had both Houses and the Presidency and couldn't get their head out of their asses.
Those claiming all this is only happening due to the "slim" majority in the house forget about 2016.
It's all a shell game.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:37 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Hello speaker Jefferies!
Rep. Thomas Massie Announces He Will Join Forces with MTG to Oust Johnson as Speaker
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How does he get those items through a DEM Senate and Biden?
He doesn't have to. His word was to end the endless spending on Ukraine. Spending bills start in the House. All he's had to do was simply not allow Ukraine funding bills on the floor.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:40 pm to Lg
quote:No. It's up to the voters to stop re-electing crappy Congressmen. There aren't enough "good" representatives in the House to do what you (and I) would like.
Why? Is it not the responsibility of the leaders in the party to hold those accountable for their actions?
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:42 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I have seen nothing happen (or not happen) under Johnson that wouldn't happen (or not happen) under Jeffries.
Amnesty for starters.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:42 pm to Taxing Authority
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Hello speaker Jefferies!
Posted on 4/16/24 at 12:44 pm to Figgy
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Amnesty for starters.
We are way past the point where that even matters.
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