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re: Rep. Randy Fine will introduce legislation to hold judges ACCOUNTABLE

Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:08 am to
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
803 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:08 am to
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Judges can’t do their jobs


Which leads to a tangential discussion: are judges actually doing their jobs if their decisions lead to harming the public further?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8974 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:09 am to
quote:

So more federal power expansion and erosion of states' rights?


It's almost as if most people on the Board don't respect or like the Constitution and its limits on the federal government.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23495 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:11 am to
All we have to do is allow victims of these violent criminals sue judges for negligence. Judge lets a repeatedly violent animal out and he assaults someone the next day or kills someone, that judge should be liable.

Cashless bond. Liable.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92765 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:20 am to
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So more federal power expansion and erosion of states' rights?



Try judges not honoring minimum sentencing guidelines
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:26 am to
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Yeah, he’s still an evil genocidal fat fricking turd of a human being,


This meme makes me lol:

Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
4331 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:30 am to
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
803 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:31 am to
quote:

It's almost as if most people on the Board don't respect or like the Constitution and its limits on the federal government.


It's almost as if judges don't respect neither the written law or the will of the people.

FWIW, I understand the logic on your side...but...when judges are the weak link, what good does it do to whistle past the graveyard when the guy who murdered the woman in Charlotte has 14 felony convictions, and is out on the street? How twisted does your sense of 'justice' have to be to cut that guy one inch of slack? The judge there needed to be the adult in the room and say enough is enough, but apparently his perverted need to be his savior resulted in an innocent woman dying. IF OUR JUDICIARY CANNOT HOLD THE CRIMINALS RESPONSIBLE, WHO SHOULD IT BE THEN?
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 9:34 am
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
4331 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:34 am to
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This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 9:36 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8974 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:46 am to
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FWIW, I understand the logic on your side...but...when judges are the weak link, what good does it do to whistle past the graveyard when the guy who murdered the woman in Charlotte has 14 felony convictions, and is out on the street?


We're in agreement. Federal legislation wouldn't have done anything in this horrible case. I don't understand why state legislators don't act.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:47 am to
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It's almost as if most people on the Board don't respect or like the Constitution and its limits on the federal government.

*as long as their team is in power

If their perceived out group is in power, this is an ABSOLUTE AFFRONT TO THE CONSTITUTION.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:49 am to
quote:

Try judges not honoring minimum sentencing guidelines

What does that have to do with my comment?

Also, is sentencing even in play here? I thought the uproar was over bond.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8974 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:54 am to
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If their perceived out group is in power, this is an ABSOLUTE AFFRONT TO THE CONSTITUTION.


Yup. It's confounding to see people who claim to be America First but don't seem to understand what makes us the greatest nation on earth.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:56 am to
Many posters have done yet another 180 (on states' rights) to go along with so many other policy positions (war, socialism, etc.).

They will flip back when the winds blow that way.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25189 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:10 am to
I appreciate his sentiment, but he's going about it the wrong way IMO.

Stiffen the mandatory minimum sentencing for violent crimes so that judges don't even have the discretion available to them to get someone off with a slap on the wrist sentence.

And put in place mandatory minimum cash bail amounts for violent crimes so that people like that aren't back out on the street a few days later after posting a relatively low bail. And codify that if they pickup another violent crime charge while already out on bail, that their bail is automatically revoked and they have to sit in jail until their trial. Limit the judge's discretion on releasing violent criminals and letting them off with light sentences.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19391 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:12 am to
I thought Massie was all over this for years? He demands accountability of our public servants doesn't he?

NOT

(that's only for Trump)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:13 am to
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I thought Massie was all over this for years? He demands accountability of our public servants doesn't he?

NOT


Why would Massie want to expand federal oversight to a local/state function?
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
4331 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:33 am to
Bro this isn’t 2008. Your don’t tread on me bumper sticker ain’t convincing anyone no more
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:35 am to
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Bro this isn’t 2008. Your don’t tread on me bumper sticker ain’t convincing anyone no more


Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20191 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:09 am to
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It's not the number...of course ONE murder is too many. The grandstanding is a Congress critter drafting legislation that would have had ZERO effect in preventing this tragedy.


Grandstanding? Fertilizer.

A closed-loop system of accountability in this arena and others will prevent numerous crimes.

Eschew obfuscation.

Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7644 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:23 am to
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It's not the number...of course ONE murder is too many. The grandstanding is a Congress critter drafting legislation that would have had ZERO effect in preventing this tragedy.


Have to ask oneself, would this proposed legislation have prevented this young women's murder?

The answer is simply no. A federal judge had nothing to do with releasing this low IQ criminal on the streets.
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