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re: Remington bails on New York for Alabama

Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:15 pm to
You called one guys post ignorant!

Then you said it was because you didn't like his tone! Not sure you know what ignorant means.

You claimed that just because some people think New York is anti business doesn't make it right. Well what does it make New York when business leave due to over regulation?

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:18 pm to
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if you're ranked 50/50, that's pretty indicative of being anti-business


well again it presupposes that at least one state is "anti-buisness", which i don't think is true.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:19 pm to
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well again it presupposes that at least one state is "anti-buisness"

Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:20 pm to
Well just because a small portion of New Yorkers don't think they are anti-business doesn't make it true!

Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
12343 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:22 pm to
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well again it presupposes that at least one state is "anti-business", which i don't think is true.


it depends on what you define "anti-business" as
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85262 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:22 pm to
Yeah, my peeps are from New York and Pennsylvania. There is a direct correlation between those who are successful and have solid standards of living and how quickly they got out of those dying Eastern communities. Small town blue-collar life in those regions suck balls compared to elsewhere in America. I guess if you are a hedge fund manager in Connecticut it's pretty pimp.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465803 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:25 pm to
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Yeah, my peeps are from New York and Pennsylvania.

Rhode Island via NYC/Brooklyn

half my fam speaks like deya from brOOK-lynn and half can't pronounce HAWPA

and when i'm there? i'm like a freak side show for my slight drawl and saying please/thank you

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:34 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:42 pm to
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How are you guys celebrating this, this is going to kill a lot of people's jobs in New York, they have a choice either move to Alabama or lose their job, are you serious, this is putting hundreds of New Yorkers out of a job and you all are celebrating

How many people do you know would move from NY to Alabama, not many

This will ruin people's families and tear apart their kids social lives if they move. Think of the kids extra curricular activities they are a part of and the friends they have in NY.


The folks in Albany should have thought about this before they passed that stupid SAFE Act.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31756 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:55 am to
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How are you guys celebrating this, this is going to kill a lot of people's jobs in New York, they have a choice either move to Alabama or lose their job, are you serious, this is putting hundreds of New Yorkers out of a job and you all are celebrating How many people do you know would move from NY to Alabama, not many This will ruin people's families and tear apart their kids social lives if they move. Think of the kids extra curricular activities they are a part of and the friends they have in NY.


The same way celebrate getting a new coach not thinking of the dozens of people that lost their job.

I don't blame the people of NY for their mistakes, but I don't mind them paying for them. (Not the employees)

Websense and Phantom technologies are two multimillion $$$ companies moving to Texas from California to escape the anti business tactics of the state.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:16 am to
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Remington bails on New York for Alabama


Freeing more Yankees from job lock.

Here's a video on the model Remington will be making in Huntsville.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11015 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:43 am to
New York has a higher per capita income than Alabama and NYC is one of the wealthiest cities in the country. There are parts of Manhattan and the Hampton's that will put the nicest places in Alabama to shame. To say that New York is going to lose to Alabama in the long run is laughable.

Wall Street and the barons of capitalism call New York their home. Ask them if they want to live in Alabama. Heck ask them if they can make the type of money they make in Manhattan in Birmingham. Ask Donald Trump and the Harringtons and the Rockefellers if they want to live in Florence. In fact they laugh at Alabama for oh so many reasons.

The Remington plant will pay around 150% to 200% of minimum wage. Hardly the stuff that dreams are made of. In fact most New Yorkers and many economists see Remington Plants as good riddance in a day and age when capitalism makes more greater profits on the trade, finance, and banking industries in the post-industrial age.


Short-term this is okay for Alabama but no one with any brains even the most conservative economists sees Remington plants as the future for any communities in the USA.

Sure a loss for New York but jobs like this can be just as easily taken away from Alabama. Remington sees Alabama as a place of cheap, pliable labor. If that is what you want to hang the future of Alabama on go for it. Cheap docile labor can be found in oh so so many places and the technology can stay in New York and the cheap docile labor can be found anywhere. New York invests its money differently than Alabama. Fifty years from now New York will still have a higher per capita income than Alabama and have industries less willing and able to move. They will still have Wall Street and Banks and more millionaires per capita than Alabama and the Remington Plant in Alabama will be shut down while banks and brokerage houses will still be open and humming and making more money in New York.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 10:51 am
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:47 am to
Nice melt Ralph
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:49 am to
Hey Ralph, it sounds like you're pulling for the rich capitalists in NYC instead of the downtrodden proles in Alabama. The rich guys up there need to share their wealth.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11015 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:54 am to
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Hey Ralph, it sounds like you're pulling for the rich capitalists in NYC instead of the downtrodden proles in Alabama. The rich guys up there need to share their wealth.


I'm not rooting for them. I'm just telling you that they are not your friends. The reason why they are putting their plant in Alabama is BECAUSE it's downtrodden. In fact they want Alabama to stay downtrodden for the cheap, docile labor. If Alabama becomes non-downtroddent they will leave ASAP.

Plus the real profits from this plant will go to stockholders of Remington and to brokers, and bakers and stockbrokers in New York. The real money from this plant won't be in Alabama. Enjoy the jobs while you can. it is a job that requires little skill and will result in very little investment in human capital and will leave in about 20 years and having little left to show for it.

This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 10:56 am
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30940 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:57 am to
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fact they want Alabama to stay downtrodden for the cheap, docile labor. If Alabama becomes non-downtroddent they will leave ASAP. Plus the real profits from this

Hmmm...Bama's getting good paying jobs with benefits where currently these jobs do not exist. How is this bad again? If anything, it drives up other wages locally as employees will now have more options for employment. Dumbass.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3558 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:58 am to
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when capitalism makes more greater profits on the trade, finance, and banking industries in the post-industrial age.

Especially when the taxpayers bail them out - or has that already been forgotten?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32432 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:58 am to
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IWHI
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11015 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 10:59 am to
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Hmmm...Bama's getting good paying jobs with benefits where currently these jobs do not exist. How is this bad again? If anything, it drives up other wages locally as employees will now have more options for employment. Dumbass.



It's not bad short-term, but there is no future long-term in building things that can and will be made in places of cheaper labor.

You will soon see Mercedes, Hyundai, Remington, and Honda make their vehicles in a place with greater returns on capital. Enjoy it while you can but the real money and they money that stays will be in Germany, Korea, New York, and Japan.
This post was edited on 2/16/14 at 11:00 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 2/16/14 at 11:02 am to
Do we keep track of melt days on here like we do SECr or is that frowned upon?
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