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re: Remember the Epstein victim who died by suicide 2 months ago? Virginia Giuffre.

Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:32 pm to
Rolling on the Clintons is a death sentence. Everyone knows this.
Posted by dafif
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Nobody mentioned Clinton


Have you read the deposition transcripts?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:01 pm to
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That’s called a loose end.

What? How?
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Nobody mentioned Clinton


Must have been Bill's stunt double who was listed in the Lolita Express flight logs 26 times.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:06 pm to
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Guiffre has been deposed and interviewed dozens of times over many years and implicated Clinton

Her deposition testimony actually called out Maxwell for embellishing their relationship to Clinton

LINK

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In a testy exchange with one of Maxwell's lawyers, Laura Menninger, Giuffre said that Ghislaine Maxwell may have exaggerated a story about flying Clinton onto Epstein's island in a helicopter.

Giuffre did not, however, deny meeting Clinton on the island — something she has told to journalists prior to the deposition.

"Ghislaine told me that she flew Bill Clinton in," Giuffre said. "And Ghislaine likes to talk a lot of stuff that sounds fantastical."


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In the deposition, taken on May 3, 2016, Maxwell's attorney Laura Menninger asked whether Giuffre was "ever on the helicopter with Bill Clinton and Ghislaine Maxwell as the pilot of the helicopter" or "on the helicopter with Bill Clinton's Secret Service and Ghislaine Maxwell as the pilot."

Giuffre answered "no" to both questions.

Menninger did not ask Giuffre about spending time with Clinton on the island. She told Daily Mail reporter Sharon Churcher that she met him there twice, but was never "lent out" to him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:08 pm to
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But Slow pro said epstein was the only guy.


*In the criminal trial

Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:09 pm to
Giuffre was abused ... may she rest in peace and God bless her troubled soul.

She was also a notoriously untrustworthy liar at times that caused a crap ton of problems for prosecutors.

That's not me passing judgements on the poor girl. That's just the undeniable facts where her claims and testimonies were often concerned.

The Alan Dershowitz accusations were her undoing.

Posted by Schleynole
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:10 pm to
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*In the criminal trial


Not at all what youve been saying. YOu've been saying Giselle trafficked only to Epstein. I know it's ludicrous but that has been your argument
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:10 pm to
She also caved after she accused Dershowitz. They had dueling lawsuits and then they both dropped them.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:13 pm to
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What? How?

Go take your obtuse bullshite to some other thread
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:13 pm to
She was instrumental in getting allegations against Epstein into the public discourse, but her role in the matter was done like 10 years ago. She has literal testimony on record that anyone can go read online. That's why all of these CTs about her being killed make no sense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:14 pm to
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Not at all what youve been saying

Ah, this is one of those times where people make shite up and argue against a fantasy.

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YOu've been saying Giselle trafficked only to Epstein.

Answering questions asking how she is in jail and/or how they were prosecuted, also known as *in the criminal trial.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:15 pm to
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Go take your obtuse bullshite to some other thread

She was deposed almost a decade ago. Her civil suit against Epstein was settled in 2019. Her suit against Prince Andrew settled in 2022.

Her role in this whole endeavor ended years ago. She was no longer a "loose end"
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:16 pm to
You are FILTH.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:21 pm to
Go away man. Your schtick is boring
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:21 pm to
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Go away man. Your schtick is boring

The truth is boring compared to fantasy, correct.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:23 pm to
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The truth is boring compared to fantasy, correct.

You don’t know when to quit
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:25 pm to
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A damned ABC reporter mentioned Clinton and how her story was spiked.

But I’m sure it was all just Jeff banging sex slaves. Well, Jeff and one of the royals, but I’m not here to pick nits.



Virginia Guiffre was 17 years old

according to the James Patterson book, Virginia would have been "too old" for Epstein.

He preferred them to be 14 or younger.




ETA: isn't it amazing how James Patterson write an entire non fiction expose on all this, and now it's like, naw, nevermind, nothing ever happened
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Schleynole
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Ah, this is one of those times where people make shite up and argue against a fantasy.



THese are direct quotes from you today. I didn't lie or change what you said. YOu;ve been saying the same things in every thread

She scouted/delivered girls to Epstein.
She trafficked girls to Epstein
They were trafficked to him



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:29 pm to
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She scouted/delivered girls to Epstein.
She trafficked girls to Epstein
They were trafficked to him


When describing the allegations/testimony at the criminal trial, this is an accurate summary.

Testimony from her trial

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A woman identified in court by the pseudonym “Jane” testified she met Maxwell and Epstein in 1994 when she was 14 at a camp where he was a benefactor.

She and her mother met Epstein for tea in Florida and he said he could mentor her. She then started going to Epstein’s home by herself. At first, Maxwell and Epstein made her feel special – spending time with her, asking about her family and interests and taking her to do fun things, she said. For the first few months, Maxwell felt like an older sister, she said.

“It changed when the abuse started happening,” she said.


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“Kate” testified she first met Maxwell through an older boyfriend when she was 17.

Maxwell invited her for tea at her London townhome and told Kate about Epstein and later invited her again to meet him, she testified.

There, Maxwell told her to give Epstein’s foot a little “squeeze” to show him how strong she was despite her small frame, Kate testified. Epstein approved of the foot massage and also had her massage his shoulders.

...


Maxwell called her back a second for another meeting with Epstein. “She said, ‘I’m so glad you’re here. You did such a good job last time (that) he wanted you to come back,’” Kate said.

This time, Epstein was standing naked when Maxwell brought Kate to the same room and closed the door behind her. “Have a good time,” Maxwell said as she left the room, according to the testimony.



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Carolyn, who testified using only her first name, said she was 14 years old when she began to go to Epstein’s home in Palm Beach, two or three times per week in the early 2000s.

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Carolyn said she went to Epstein’s over a hundred times in all. Each time she visited, $300 in cash was left for her on the bathroom sink, she said.

“Something sexual happened every single time,” Carolyn said.

She said that she remembered bringing three different friends around her age with her over the years. On those occasions she’d receive $600 in cash as an incentive for bringing them, and her friends would receive $300.


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Annie Farmer, who testified under her full name, has spoken out publicly about Epstein and Maxwell for years. She spoke in open court during both Epstein’s 2019 bail hearing and Maxwell’s bail hearing a year later.

She testified for three hours, the fourth and final accuser to do so. Her older sister worked for Epstein, and Farmer met him during the 1995 holiday season. Epstein paid for her commercial flight to New York and at a movie held hands with her and caressed her foot, she said in court.

She described going to the billionaire’s ranch in New Mexico in 1996 at age 16, where she thought she would be joining other peers but she was the only teen there.

...

On her last day at the ranch Epstein bounded into her guestroom where she still lay in bed telling her he wanted to “cuddle.”

“He climbed into bed with me and kind of laid behind me and reached his arms around me and like pressed his body into me,” she said.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 3:29 pm
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