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re: Remember that time when the guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:02 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:02 am to Darth_Vader
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Ever heard of “The Crusades”? They were only 700+ years ago. Get a load of this idiot.
I guess y’alls sarcasm meter is broken today.
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:06 am to troyt37
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the title of your thread is "Remember that time when the guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers?"
To which I responded with my Jim Jones remark.
Would you like to enlarge the parameters of your query to include political ideologies?
To which I responded with my Jim Jones remark.
Would you like to enlarge the parameters of your query to include political ideologies?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:18 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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Very close.
Nice. My in-laws have a cabin along Fires Creek that the wife and I visit frequently.
Nice, quiet place.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:25 am to troyt37
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I don't know, how about THE communists that I named? Were Stalin and Pol Pot atheists? I can go on if you'd like, as there were mass killings by communist regimes in China, Vietnam, North Korea, Romania, Bulgaria, East Germany, and elsewhere.
Well, Stalin and Pol Pot are certainly the easiest. Like I said though, I doubt it had more to do with specifically being "anti-God" and more to do with being "anti-religion" in that they did not want any organization that would hold enough influence to interrupt their power base.
Let's just say that jumping to the immediate conclusion that being an atheist means you're okay with people dying is not accurate just because you can equate totalitarian governments with it. Non-secular governments can easily be held accountable for terrible acts. I doubt anyone would conclude that early US governments were entirely secular, but I don't think we can say we treated the Native American population how a Christian nation should have.
I am entirely open to a debate if you disagree, however.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:28 am to UGATiger26
Awesome. Love Fires Creek.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:32 am to HeadLightBanDit
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the title of your thread is "Remember that time when the guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers?"
First, this isn't my thread.
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To which I responded with my Jim Jones remark.
Which is a non-starter, because Jim Jones was much more into Stalin, and Castro, than he ever was Jesus.
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Would you like to enlarge the parameters of your query to include political ideologies?
No, but it appears you do, through ignorance. You want to believe the narrative of Jonestown being a cautionary tale about religion, because you are ignorant of the fact that Jonestown was much more about socialist utopia and communism than it ever was about religion of any kind.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:35 am to troyt37
You need to research Jim Jones and pay particular attention to where he came from, not where he ended up.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:36 am to winston318
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Damn near every shooting at an abortion clinic is a radical christian.
Because this happens SO often.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:46 am to HeadLightBanDit
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You need to research Jim Jones and pay particular attention to where he came from, not where he ended up.
Et tu, Brute?
James Warren Jones (May 13, 1931 – November 18, 1978) was an American religious and cult leader, who initiated, and was responsible for a mass suicide and mass murder in Jonestown, Guyana. He believed communism was the correct social order, in compliance with God's will.[1][2] Jones was ordained as a Disciples of Christ pastor, and he achieved notoriety as the founder and leader of the Peoples Heaven, which was often described as having cult-like qualities.
As a child, Jones was a voracious reader who studied Joseph Stalin, Karl Marx, Mao Zedong, Mahatma Gandhi and Adolf Hitler carefully,[10] noting the strengths and weaknesses of each.
When Jones returned from Brazil in December 1963,[36] he told his Indiana congregation that the world would be engulfed by nuclear war on July 15, 1967, that would then create a new socialist Eden on Earth, and that the Temple had to move to Northern California for safety
According to religious studies professor Catherine Wessinger, while Jones always spoke of the social gospel's virtues, he chose to conceal that his gospel was actually communism before the late 1960s.[1] By that time, Jones began at least partially revealing the details of his "Apostolic Socialism" concept in Temple sermons.[1] He also taught that "those who remained drugged with the opiate of religion had to be brought to enlightenment – socialism".[38] Jones often mixed these ideas, such as preaching that, "If you're born in capitalist America, racist America, fascist America, then you're born in sin. But if you're born in socialism, you're not born in sin."
Would you like to continue?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:54 am to Capital Cajun
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Ever heard of “The Crusades”? They were only 700+ years ago.
The Spanish Inquisition......
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:54 am to winston318
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Chrristians have slaughtered people for centuries and it still goes on today. We typically refer to them as being mentally ill
That's thin. There's a difference between people who happen to be christians going crazy and killing people. Murder is vehemently admonished in the christian religion. Murder is applauded and endorsed in Islam, notably murder of those who believe differently than you.
You cannot compare the two examples in reference to their religion, because only one of those religions supports murder.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:59 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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Love Fires Creek.
Great in concert.
Didn't peg you for a Creekhead though!
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:59 am to troyt37
What I see is a religioous background interspersed with strong communist/marxist enfluences.
How is this a disqualification when looking for a "guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers"?
How is this a disqualification when looking for a "guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers"?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:59 am to troyt37
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This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:59 am to troyt37
What I see is a religioous background interspersed with strong communist/marxist enfluences.
How is this a disqualification when looking for a "guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers"?
How is this a disqualification when looking for a "guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers"?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:59 am to troyt37
What I see is a religioous background interspersed with strong communist/marxist enfluences.
How is this a disqualification when looking for a "guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers"?
How is this a disqualification when looking for a "guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers"?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:03 am to FightnBobLafollette
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Eric Rudolph says hello.
So one. One person... uno. 1. You scoured the internet to find 1 person and you rushed here to post his name...
Got it.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:05 am to HeadLightBanDit
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HeadLightBanDit
Posting issues there my friend?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:05 am to HeadLightBanDit
There is a podcast named Case File. There is a 3 part series about Jim Jones and Jonestown.
He was not a religious man and just used it as a vehicle to push his communist beliefs and created a cult.
He was not a religious man and just used it as a vehicle to push his communist beliefs and created a cult.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:10 am to HeadLightBanDit
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How is this a disqualification when looking for a "guy who was really into Jesus murdered a bunch of strangers"?
I tried to tell you from the beginning, he wasn't "really into Jesus" he was really into Marxism, socialism, and communism. By definition, that is a disqualification. Try to keep up.
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