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re: Remember, all Muslim countries now were once Christian
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:40 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:40 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Sounds like we're well past due for a worldwide Reconquista.
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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The empire eventually forced conversion and used the bureaucracy to inhibit other religions. Justinian forced conversions before Islam existed
So, like the taxes on non-Muslims and why we have Slavic, Tartar, and Albanian Muslims today?
A little different than using the word subjugation no?
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:44 am to UtahCajun
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A little different than using the word subjugation no?
Forced conversion via authoritarianism is forced conversion via authoritarianism
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:46 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Texas: was Christian now 99% muslim
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:50 am to UtahCajun
A lot of those Arab tribes prior to 640 were nominally Christian, save for places like N. Africa which was very Christian and the coastal areas along the Levantine coast like Antioch and maybe as far inland as,Damascus. Those Arab tribes saw it as an advantage to adopt the religion of whomever was the most powerful at the time. But, beginning around 600 Roman influence and this Christianity was blunted because of upheaval about the emperor in Constantinople and the Persian invasion that lasted some 25 years approximately. Heraclius reunited the empire under the Christian banner, but his victory came at a great cost ultimately for Christianity. Arabs moved into the vacuum and their "new" religion which was basically a form of Judaism in that it was monotheistic without the complications of trying to explain the trinity.
However, places like Egypt remained majority Christian for another 300 years along with Damascus until the residents started to realize that being Muslim had its advantages when dealing with their Southern Arab masters and later the Seljuk Turks who moved in.
However, places like Egypt remained majority Christian for another 300 years along with Damascus until the residents started to realize that being Muslim had its advantages when dealing with their Southern Arab masters and later the Seljuk Turks who moved in.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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It is the strangest thing. All logic, reason, and data-based analysis is out the window for the latest emotional echo chamber trend.
They’re letting their feelings get in the way of the facts.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:57 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
At some point in the future it will be the US of Islam.
Unless you do something about it like getting the message out there (the Gospel, the conservative view, etc.) and becoming more family-oriented.
Muslims are not sitting around drinking, watching TV and sports continuously, spending hours in the gym/primping and otherwise being self-indulgent and idolatrous.
Unless you do something about it like getting the message out there (the Gospel, the conservative view, etc.) and becoming more family-oriented.
Muslims are not sitting around drinking, watching TV and sports continuously, spending hours in the gym/primping and otherwise being self-indulgent and idolatrous.
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 7:59 am
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:00 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Remember, all Muslim countries now were once Christian.
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Not just Christian. They conquer everyone.
You guys will just slurp up any old bullshite on Twitter even when it directly contradicts itself.
BTW, I hope you are sitting down for this, but every country that is now Christian used to be not Christian. Supposedly this started around 33 AD, with a second huge wave starting around 1492 AD. A really obscure history fact that you could only learn about from a twitter slop account reposted by a bot on Political Talk.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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Forced conversion via authoritarianism is forced conversion via authoritarianism
Well, let's be honest though shall we. There was much, much more to it than Justinian wanting everyone to be Christian. There was quite a bit of stuff happening.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:02 am to sta4ever
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They’re letting their feelings get in the way of the facts.
I have had AI run the numbers many times to counter their claims that Muslims will reach a majority in Florida, Texas, and the US.
Last time, the pivot was "they just need to reach 6%" with no explanation and then they left the discussion b/c they were owned so badly.
Pure emotional-based NPC behavior.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:04 am to UtahCajun
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There was much, much more to it than Justinian wanting everyone to be Christian. There was quite a bit of stuff happening.
This applies to Muslim expansions as well. There were many political and sociological reasons for many areas in the ME and North Africa to promote Islam at various points.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:07 am to SlowFlowPro
Really, prior to Theodosius, Rome could not care less as to your religion, in fact the wanted as many out there as possible because they all had to pay a tax like the Jews did in the Bible ( the money changers at the temle)
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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This applies to Muslim expansions as well. There were many political and sociological reasons for many areas in the ME and North Africa to promote Islam at various points.
Difference being
Muslims were moving into lands that were not Islamic
Pagans were moving into lands that were already becoming Christian via natural conversion.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:10 am to UtahCajun
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Difference being
Muslims were moving into lands that were not Islamic
Pagans were moving into lands that were already becoming Christian via natural conversion.
No.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:27 am to Mo Jeaux
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No
So, there were no conversions happening during that time?
Or
Were no pagan tribes moving in?
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 8:28 am
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:33 am to UtahCajun
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So, there were no conversions happening during that time?
Or
Were no pagan tribes moving in?
The early spread of Christianity is a story of it moving into non-Christian territories and peoples. Overwhelmingly. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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Looks like subjugation to me.
How many of those areas were Christiand due to subjugation? Most of that looks like the imprint of the Roman empire
Yeah the book of Acts is all about Paul and the Disciples conquering and subjugating everyone after Jesus...
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:44 am to scottydoesntknow
Time for a rebirth of Christianity…….the conversion to Islam works in 3rd world countries but in first world Women have to give up their rights and essentially become possessions like livestock or furniture ….in first world women loose too much
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:44 am to Mo Jeaux
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The early spread of Christianity is a story of it moving into non-Christian territories and peoples. Overwhelmingly. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here
First read what SFP claimed. Then compare it to how the spread Christianity was actually happening prior to his claim that Justinian used bureaucratic despotism to spread it. Then the point may make sense.
SFP has a point to an extent, but not the same as spread via jihad.
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:54 am to UtahCajun
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but not the same as spread via jihad.
Note: I never once mentioned "jihad" in my comments
*ETA: in fact, I already pointed out that using that language was a strawman
This post was edited on 8/31/26 at 8:55 am
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