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re: Refinery closures increase uncertainty about California’s fuel future
Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:02 pm to Jbird
Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:02 pm to Jbird
Weren't the resident LWNJ's just touting California's status as a major world ecomony in terms of GDP just recently? Guess Texas is looking better and better.
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:16 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Operational for almost 100 years. Named El Srgundo because it was the 2nd refinery built in the state. Originally Standard Oil then Chevron now Phillips 66
I thought the P66 plant shutting down was over near San Pedro off of the 110 near W Anaheim Road. We have plants in Carson, Wilmington and Torrance that supply H2 gas to those refineries. That P66 is on our pipeline as is the Chevron in El Segundo. I didn't know the El Segundo plant was now a P66 and that it was the plant shutting down. I was there all of Jan and Feb staying in a hotel on Rosecrans in Manhattan Beach.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:18 pm to DerkaDerka
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Their trucks all fill at the same refineries and the additives are added at the fueling point. So that means a shell station could be filling at a Chevron refinery etc…
Most fuel is sent via pipeline and blended for each distributor.
Not many refineries blend and distribute direct to the pump.
Exxon br blends and distributes to exxon branded stations. I believe everything else is sent to the pipeline network (colonial, plantation etc.)
Posted on 5/3/25 at 3:25 pm to DerkaDerka
I was at a conference retreat for the Georgia conservancy in the okefenoke and this bull hard liberal professor was spouting how the spike in prices was caused by manufacturing and dispersing malfeasance.
He didn’t count on my participation and I shut his shite down quick.
He didn’t count on my participation and I shut his shite down quick.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 4:12 pm to tigerfan 64
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Most fuel is sent via pipeline and blended for each distributor. Not many refineries blend and distribute direct to the pump. Exxon br blends and distributes to exxon branded stations. I believe everything else is sent to the pipeline network (colonial, plantation etc.)
Interesting, Chevron in Pascagoula has all the additives for various brands. Truck driver filling his tanker swipes his card and the appropriate additives are mixed into the stock.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 4:15 pm to pochejp
You know, I think you might be right. I owned some commercial property there and lived there for a while. Awesome little town.
But I sold the real estate and don't go there as often anymore and I might have totally misread what I'm talking about.
Anyway I'm stoned as frick, so don't mind me. Anyway, El Segundo is a badass little town and if you're back, check out the El Segundo Brewing Company.
But I sold the real estate and don't go there as often anymore and I might have totally misread what I'm talking about.
Anyway I'm stoned as frick, so don't mind me. Anyway, El Segundo is a badass little town and if you're back, check out the El Segundo Brewing Company.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 4:21 pm to Jbird
Refineries can’t operate with the storage California is mandating. There are so many different issues that arise that can cause this. Especially logistics and unplanned outages. Also these big corporations aren’t going to be told how to operate to make California happy. These refineries are about the cost effective way to make money and California has made it impossible. As well as having to pay taxes on what’s in those full storage tanks at years end and the added cost to build more tanks that will be needed just to operate. Congrats Cali. Gas is going to cost a little more!
Posted on 5/3/25 at 4:53 pm to El Segundo Guy
Chevron's El Segundo refinery isn't closing. I just finished a T/A planning meeting, and 3-year CAPEX meeting for El Segundo, Richmond, and Pascagoula, and no plans to shutter either of the 3.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 5:15 pm to El Segundo Guy
Fred G Sanford had a time share in El Segundo.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:04 pm to Jbird
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sent a letter to the CEC, directing the regulators to guarantee reliable fuel supplies
‘Show me the money, bitch’
Posted on 5/3/25 at 7:13 pm to DerkaDerka
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Interesting, Chevron in Pascagoula has all the additives for various brands. Truck driver filling his tanker swipes his card and the appropriate additives are mixed into the stock.
Fuel is not the only products with shared base feed stock.
I once worked at the Castrol bottling plant in Port Allen.
Exxon base oil. Exxon polymer additives.
May just as well buy exxon motor oil.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:22 pm to Rebel
Baw, once the Lakers and Kings moved their offices and headquarters to El Segundo, my commercial real estate went up big. El Segundo also has some air force base that deals with rockets or missiles or some shite.
The downtown Main Street area is called "Mayberry by the Beach" for a reason. A good mixture of old school restaurants and pubs and then the El Segundo Brewing Company and Main Street Pub. There used to be a smoking hot Asian bartender at the Purple Orchid.
The downtown Main Street area is called "Mayberry by the Beach" for a reason. A good mixture of old school restaurants and pubs and then the El Segundo Brewing Company and Main Street Pub. There used to be a smoking hot Asian bartender at the Purple Orchid.
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