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Recalculations of illegal votes by noncitizens puts number closer to Trump’s

Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:22 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:22 am
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A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates. As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House. The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians, revealed its number-crunching in a report on national immigration. Just Facts President James D. Agresti and his team looked at data from an extensive Harvard/YouGov study that every two years questions a sample size of tens of thousands of voters. Some acknowledge they are noncitizens and are thus ineligible to vote. Just Facts’ conclusions confront both sides in the illegal voting debate: those who say it happens a lot and those who say the problem nonexistent.


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Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20188 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:25 am to
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:40 am to
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He estimated that as many as 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered that year and 594,000 to 5.7 million voted.


I don't doubt for a millisecond that illegals vote, but, c'mon, that is a pretty wide margin. Those numbers sound like something I could make up.

"Anywhere from zero to a hundredy kazillion cast ballots and voted for the D candidate."
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:47 am to
Order of magnitude wild arse propaganda into the brains of easily manipulated.

Ps, the auditor of state dept found the 6 billion that kerry and Clinton "stole". Apparently that Madruga drug bust money showed up too.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:52 am to
By Any Means Necessary.

Progs aren't citizens anymore to me. They're the enemy.

Posted by FandIgod
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2017
217 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:55 am to
Oh No!
But! But! Trump lies and is an Idiot
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118677 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:55 am to
Every one knows Obama was the socially promoted president.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:56 am to
Progs, gooks, frogs, heinies.

Poster wmr is a propagandist.
Name calling is a key element of propaganda. Dehumanize the "other".
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21872 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:16 am to
There are no data to support this conclusion.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118677 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:21 am to
quote:

There are no data to support this conclusion.




There's anti-science BamaAtl spreading lies again.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118677 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:24 am to
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:44 am to
It's all subjective anyway. This guy has chosen equations in order to manipulate the core data to support his argument. Such methodology would not survive any real scrutiny. That's why it's not published in a peer-reviewed journal and is just political puffery
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23656 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:16 am to
Why do y'all like the Moony Cult owned newspaper so much?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:17 am to
quote:

There are no data to support this conclusion.


That's never stopped you.

Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
1308 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:20 am to
So are we saying there is a possibility Obama was never even elected officially?

Truly, I don't understand how an illegal can vote.

My entire life I have had to show a state-issued ID, which is then matched to my valid voter registration at that precinct.

If states are allowing people to vote without valid registrations, the fed should step in and charge them for having to run national elections.

This is unacceptable. The foundation of our country is free, but accurate, elections.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:23 am to
I said a couple weeks ago the number had gone from 3million to over 5
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23145 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:26 am to
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My entire life I have had to show a state-issued ID


Many states issue these to illegals
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67007 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:29 am to
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Truly, I don't understand how an illegal can vote.


There are two different ways:
identity theft
in person voter fraud
legally issued drivers licenses to illegal people

There is a huge industry of stealing social security numbers, but what are they stolen for? Often times, they are sold to illegal immigrants who use those social security numbers to get federal entitlements like WIC, SNAP, Section 8, and Medicare/Medicaid. They also use those social security numbers to register to vote and enroll their children in school.

The second way is in person voter fraud. Democrat allied "community organizing" operations will get lists of voter rolls and find those who are dead or have moved out of state, but are still registered. They then have illegal voters (or people who have already voted) show up at the polls, claim to be those people, use the legal loopholes available to avoid showing an ID (there are many, even in Louisiana), and vote under those identities.

Many states, like California, will issue drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. In California, it is routine for them to also issue a voter registration card to anyone applying for a first time driver's license. No one receiving the voters registration checks to ensure the driver is a citizen, so they get registered. Once they have registered, they're free to vote.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:30 am to
quote:

If states are allowing people to vote without valid registrations, the fed should step in and charge them for having to run national elections.


Yes but the democrat party line on this is to call voter ID laws racist and to denounce white privilege.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73278 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:34 am to
The want brigade will not like this
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