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re: Reality check re: AZ election numbers VS. the primary numbers

Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by thingshavechanged
Member since May 2017
413 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:14 pm to
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The idea that Biden got all oh Hillary’s 1.1 millions votes plus 500K more ? Some people in this country are nuts to not question this .


In 2016 Arizona had 138,600 MORE 3rd party votes than in 2020. Assume Biden got 70,000 of those in 2020. . In 2020 total Arizona votes were 777,669 more than in 2016. Assume Biden got 430,000 (55%) of those. The 500,000 more than Hillary is not unrealistic.

Arizona had 892,835 more registered voters and turnout was 5% higher than 2016.

Trump’s Newsmax Interview on Tuesday May 25, 2021 Got Half as Many Viewers as a ‘Chopped’ Rerun.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9859 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:26 pm to
Our resident Prog partisans have no problems insulting your intelligence, nor their own.

Beginning with several states just suddenly (and without precedence) closing up shop for several hours, the series of subsequent events ultimately resulting in Sleepy and Kamala becoming the “most popularly voted ticket ever” (right) smacks anyone with an ounce of common sense and historical perspective right in the face.

Deep down even they know better but the simple fact is, they just really don’t care.

As long as the Bad Orange man was gone and Progressive Socialism could resume it’s march onward without further deterrence that’s all that mattered. Whatever it took.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:29 pm to
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Deep down even they know better but the simple fact is, they just really don’t care.


By any means necessary is what the left lives by.

The GOP needs to fight just as dirty.

They finally started to in CA with the ballot harvesting and they won back some seats that had been taken by the filth with that tactic.
Posted by thingshavechanged
Member since May 2017
413 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:59 pm to
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most popularly voted ticket ever” (right) smacks anyone with an ounce of common sense and historical perspective right in the face.


Population counts; voter participation percentages and statistical analysis obviously aren't your strong suit. Hell, Trump with 7 million less votes than Biden even exceeded prior vote total records by 5 million votes.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:00 pm to
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The GOP needs to fight just as dirty.




The GOP was in on the theft.

But blame “libertarians” all you like if it helps you sleep better at night.

Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9859 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:15 pm to
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quote:
most popularly voted ticket ever” (right) smacks anyone with an ounce of common sense and historical perspective right in the face.


Population counts; voter participation percentages and statistical analysis obviously aren't your strong suit. Hell, Trump with 7 million less votes than Biden even exceeded prior vote total records by 5 million votes.


And it would appear basic common sense is not yours. I’m open to you educating me with some of your statistical analysis and please make sure you also address the rationale behind the sudden shut down of several states that evening before Joe’s dramatic overnight surge in amongst the busted water pipes and covered windows of the states in question. That’s a rather interesting little dynamic that most let zip on by without addressing.
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 1:13 am to

This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 7:37 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 1:31 am to
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The key was always to allow mass mail in voting/vote harvesting…..they pulled it off and did so because chain of custody was ignored or destroyed.

Damn, this is big. You should send the proof you have of this chain of custody stuff to the state representatives that certified these results.

While you're at it, why don't you post your proof on here. I know you have proof because you wouldn't post crap like that on here without proof.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:49 am to

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Damn, this is big. You should send the proof you have of this chain of custody stuff to the state representatives that certified these results. While you're at it, why don't you post your proof on here. I know you have proof because you wouldn't post crap like that on here without proof.


Why did you post your equine dung, which doesn't even offer so much as an argument?

He happens to be spot on, by the way.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26234 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:57 am to
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libertarians in swing states are Democrats .

Fify
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
Tampa
Member since Jan 2019
1645 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:18 am to
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You still haven’t realized that republicans voted for Biden as well.


I wonder who the 76,000 that voted other in the Primary voted for?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Why did you post your equine dung, which doesn't even offer so much as an argument? He happens to be spot on, by the way.
He made the assertion so he should source his proof.

But since his his fingers seem to have locked up when it comes to providing a source, and since you agree with him, why don’t you back up your hot air with a reputable source.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138740 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 1:16 pm to
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Damn, this is big. You should send the proof you have of this chain of custody stuff to the state representatives that certified these results.

While you're at it, why don't you post your proof on here.

Do you know what chain of custody is?

I suppose you'd answer "yes". So please discuss chain of custody establishing (1) a 95y/o in assisted living actually cast her own vote, and (2) that it was securely passed under custody from there to the point its result was finally tallied on Election Day.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 1:29 pm to
Who are the 3 downvotes can chicken dox them for us like the trash left sites do?
Posted by thingshavechanged
Member since May 2017
413 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:40 pm to
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And it would appear basic common sense is not yours


I'll see your "common sense" and raise you with facts:

Biden and Trump garnered 26 million more votes in 2020 vs Clinton/Trump in 2016. Where did the votes come from?

1. 2016 had 5 million more 3rd party votes than 2020. Those 5 million went to Biden and Trump;
2. 2020 had 6.7% greater voter turnout vs 2016. Given a 2020 turnout rate for 2016 gives an additional 15 million votes;
3. There were 9 million more eligible voters in 2020 vs 2016. At a turnout rate of 66.7% that produces an additional 6 million votes.
4. 5mm +15mm+6mm = 26mm;
5. In 2016 Trump had a 4% advantage in Independent votes; In 2020 Biden had an 8% advantage in Independent votes---- a 12% change favoring Biden. Independents in both races accounted for 31% of the total voters; resulting in an overall 3.7% bump in favor of Biden. However, Biden's vote share was 3% higher than Clinton's. The .7% benefit to Trump came from Hispanic and Black improved percentages vs 2016.

Thanks for playing.



Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9859 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 2:39 pm to
What made this particular election peculiar of course is 46% (almost half) were said to have participated by absentee or mail in voting (your numbers don’t really highlight that fact). In particular, the mail in voting all along has been the source of primary contention because that method has long presented the most potential for fraud.

No-one satisfied with 2020 results ever bothers to take a stab at addressing why several key swing states all saw fit to at least temporarily suspend operations on election night or the fact that rules were being addressed/made up on the fly: allowing late mail in ballots to be counted, suspended signature match verifications, keeping election monitors away or only allowing in the very general vicinity where they could view/determine what was actually taking place, and on and on. In every one of these instances, Biden ended up the overwhelming beneficiary. It was not even remotely close. This is a bit odd when 82% of Biden voters reported they had already turned in their absentee or mail in ballots at least one week prior to Election Day.

It’s why to this very day, attempts in states to audit results are being met at every turn with foot dragging, refusals to cooperate, hiring of lawyers and so forth.

If I were comfortable and confident with the most transparent, secure election ever I would welcome any and all inquiries by Deplorables such as myself instead of angry denouncements that we are not honoring our democracy.

We are suspicious that things are being hidden because the very people in the states in question are acting like they have something to hide.

So I appreciate you throwing your facts and numbers together. In a vacuum I would say “yay democracy”. Unfortunately in 2020, it’s proven to be necessary to dig in and see what the story is behind the numbers.

Thanks for playing.

Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 4:28 pm to
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Do you know what chain of custody is?

I suppose you'd answer "yes". So please discuss chain of custody establishing (1) a 95y/o in assisted living actually cast her own vote, and (2) that it was securely passed under custody from there to the point its result was finally tallied on Election Day.

You're full of shite or youwouldn't ask that.

Why don't you describe an actual chain of custody system that could guarantee to provde that information about whether or not the 95y/o in assisted living actually cast her own vote.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138740 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Why don't you describe an actual chain of custody system that could guarantee to provde that information about whether or not the 95y/o in assisted living actually cast her own vote.
By golly, I think you've got it!
.... and w/o ballot chain-of-custody, electoral integrity disappears.

Now then, regarding that "chain of custody" which you insist is intact, who was it that was full of shite?
Posted by thingshavechanged
Member since May 2017
413 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 6:48 pm to
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This is a bit odd when 82% of Biden voters reported they had already turned in their absentee or mail in ballots at least one week prior to Election Day.


You overlook the 36 States that have statutes that do not allow processing (much less counting) of mail in ballots until election day--and some requiring processing to start after the polls close. Processing requires signature matching and form completeness verification BEFORE the votes are counted.

quote:

that method has long presented the most potential for fraud.


The far left think tank The Heritage Foundation has compiled a database of voter fraud for over 20 years. In the States with Universal mail in voting Heritage shows 44 cases of mail in voter fraud from an aggregate voting total of 50 million cast. 2 or 3 votes a year hardly rises to the level of in person voter fraud.

This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9859 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 7:29 pm to
I believe you may have intended to say “right wing”.

Here’s a recent piece from the organization you may find of interest being as you cited them.

Heritage Org

Again, if this was indeed the most secure election ever, one would think any/all doubters including myself would be welcomed to analyze, scrutinize and eventually walk away with egg on our face.

We have instead been met with an incredulous “how dare we question” attitude and some shuffling and tap dancing in the questionable states that would make Sammy Davis Jr. envious.

We only become more suspicious because officials of the states in question have progressively acted more suspicious.

The left screamed for 4 solid years under way way less dubious Election Day ballot circumstances that Trump stole the election in 2016.

Now, with a lot of questions still hanging out there about the validity of the mail in ballot dumps on Election night 2020 these past few months, it’s all good and everything’s legit. Mainly because we’re told so.

Let’s open the hood up for all, see if any “there” is there and if not, then you and those who were good with the results will still have not only scoreboard, but perpetual credibility over us mouth breathers who ever doubted.

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