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Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:35 am to
Posted by BigSalmon
Member since Jul 2019
576 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:35 am to
What phase is that? Looking upon a mass of people who have lost their way via stupid arse daily stories that distract them from the real gains and fruit of their ideology and trying to persuade them to correct course?

That phase?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111614 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:36 am to
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It's not bad but you probably picked the worst except to represent the article.


I’m not sure.
Conservatives are busy presenting logic-based arguments to people who don’t care about logic.

My sweet wife (no pics) will read off some deranged leftist screed and proceed to demolish it with logic and I remind her that we’re going to have to shoot them, not argue with them.

Shapiro is brilliant. No one is listening to him that doesn’t already agree with him in the main.
Posted by BigSalmon
Member since Jul 2019
576 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:37 am to
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whoever wrote this is a fricking moron


Take some effort. Explain why she's a moron. Explain why that excerpt is moronic. Your posting like a retard. Explain why you think this.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6555 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:39 am to
bless your heart
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:40 am to
The article is good in it's recommendations but it is not an either or decision, to focus on the local as opposed to the national. In fact in the world we live in Conservative should also focus on the international and also make outreach to conservatives throughout the world.

I think your title sucks however and shows no understanding of the Conservative movement. It was conservative boomers who did precisely this in the 1970s and 1980s. Congress began tho change and Reagan was elected because of grass roots efforts, there are a lot of unsung behind the scenes conservative boomers out there who started all of this.

But remember the Republican Party is big tent and the Bushes and corporate interests of the Party began to talk a conservative message but governed just as expected, and small grass roots initiatives became big money foundations (Heritage) or even massive networks (Fox News).
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9637 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:41 am to
You clearly have zero idea of how much government controlled EVERYTHING in the early 60's with prices capped on transportation, steel, oil, gas, etc... The fact it that because of conservatives we were freer overall by the time of Obama than we were in 1970.

You can thank conservatives for all of that, little boy
Posted by BigSalmon
Member since Jul 2019
576 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:41 am to
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bless your heart


bless your heart = I'm too goddamn stupid to explain my own faults with what you have posted BigSalmon, so I'm just going to post some boiler plate Baw shite.

Shut the frick up and get out of my thread. You're useless.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111614 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:42 am to
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You can thank conservatives for all of that, little boy


I don’t think the article is arguing conservatism has done no good. It’s arguing that Washingtonian-based conservatism is less about helping us and more about helping themselves. Maybe that’s just my projection.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57344 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:45 am to
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Gibberish


This is anything BUT "gibberish:"

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Ours is a political philosophy predicated on the principle of subsidiarity, which means that government functions best closest to the governed. State and federal governments should take up only those functions which the local governments are unable to perform. Unlike libertarians, we believe that government is by nature a good thing, a natural thing, and that justice and liberty occur when each level of government does everything it is capable of doing well, and no more. The most basic distinction between progressives and conservatives is that the former believe that a national, centralized government is the instrument by which society’s strengths are dispensed and its problems solved. Small-government conservatives believe that the government closest to the citizen is more accountable, effective, and just regarding almost everything the citizen needs. Part of being a complete person, after all, involves self-rule, legislating, and building one’s own community with one’s neighbors.


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We know the administrative state must be undone, but there has never been a workable plan; only ceaseless dismay about its size, persistence, and ills. Right now, millions of people depend on the welfare state, the social safety net, and the various programs built by the New Deal, the Great Society, the Civil Rights Movement, and Obamacare. How does the Right plan to wean society off of those federal programs? How does the Right plan to teach people to self-govern again, when so many of us are used to the most important decisions in our lives being made for us thousands of miles away, by people totally unaccountable to us? How does the Right plan to arrive at a society of self-governing citizens capable of maintaining healthy families, businesses, towns, cities, and states without federal meddling and subsidy? Privatize social security?


Some would call this "White Privilege" or being a "Karen," but this needs to be done more often:

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Most still plan to send our kids to the local public high school, where we anticipate becoming frequent visitors to the superintendent’s office and school board meetings.


I'd also add sitting in on your child's classes from time-to-time.

The White Privilege in this passage is blinding! How dare these people what a decent childhood for their children!

quote:

Several have slowly remodeled old, inexpensive run-down houses. Many own land, large gardens, and farm animals. We have reinvigorated the local Catholic parish and regularly have over 50 children under 10 at Sunday mass. (When my husband and I first moved to town there were fewer than five). We have allied with the local protestant churches, and stand together with over a hundred Christian families united in a common mission of providing a decent childhood for our children and a high quality of life for our community.


This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 10:53 am
Posted by BigSalmon
Member since Jul 2019
576 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:47 am to
My audience is the Boomers on this board who sit around and do nothing but share their outrage for what X said or what Y did or what GOP Grifter A said on Twitter about what some woman said in New York. So the title is perfect.

Not sure how you can focus internationally when local isn't within many people's grasp?



Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
1038 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:48 am to
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Boomers are hippies from the 70’s generation. Think Pelosi, Biden, RBG, etc


Trump and Pence are Boomers too. Mitch McConnell is a Silent Generation (born same year as Biden). You guys voting for Languid Mitch McConnell in 2024 if the grim reaper doesn’t take him first?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:55 am to
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Take some effort. Explain why she's a moron. Explain why that excerpt is moronic. Your posting like a retard. Explain why you think this.



Explain why you think she's correct besides just putting a quote in the OP. put in some effort
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68228 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:55 am to
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I remind her that we’re going to have to shoot them, not argue with them.


For years I have advocated for a Constitutional amendment establishing a process for peaceful secession to avoid this.

Killing your spouse as the only path for divorce is a stupid idea, an expensive idea, a deadly idea, and it's not good for the children.

Posted by claremontrich
Member since Nov 2016
2001 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:57 am to
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Shapiro is brilliant. No one is listening to him that doesn’t already agree with him in the main.


Agree with your whole post except this part. Although very intelligent Shapiro is not on our side. He is a conservative Inc. His entire existence is to be the conservative contrarian on CNN. He has a case of severe trump derange meant syndrome.

To this day he thinks Trump colluded with Russia despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Before you say he supports Trump he only supports him And says nice things about him occasionally on his radio show. On his network appearances and on his website he Hedge is his bets towards the other side
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 10:58 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111614 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:58 am to
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Although very intelligent Shapiro is not on our side. He is a conservative Inc. His entire existence is to be the conservative contrarian on CNN.


That was kind of my point. Shapiro is a conservative person who believes he’s advancing the cause. I don’t believe he actually is. To that extent, he’s part of Conservative, Inc.

The congresspersons who are more cynically exploiting Conservative Inc deserve more ire than Shapiro.
Posted by BigSalmon
Member since Jul 2019
576 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:59 am to
Too many people waste their energy on stupid bullshite who are "conservative." Time spent ding something good is replaced with outrage of some one thousands of miles away doing something "bad".

I have said this at least 3 times in this thread. I'm putting in the fricking effort, old man.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57344 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:59 am to
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Big Salmon


Thanks for posting that excellent piece. This Boomer thanks you.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111614 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:59 am to
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Killing your spouse as the only path for divorce is a stupid idea, an expensive idea, a deadly idea, and it's not good for the children.


I agree. But if your spouse comes at you with a knife, it’s not a stupid idea. It’s very rational.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19717 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 11:05 am to
I see you are a charm school dropout or did they they send you to charm school juvie.

With your charm, you couldn't sell ice water to a person dying of thirst.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 11:05 am to
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The national conservative movement does very little for the average person
False inside of first sentence.

Hard to get better after that.
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