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Posted on 3/15/26 at 11:41 am to Kikicaca
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Just wondering if you would have thought this in 1941. Just wondering.
I hope so, but America was attacked in that instance. We have not been in this one. This is yet another of those "pre-emptive" wars that our government asks us to suppose some catastrophe if we don't lay waste to a sovereign nation. You choose to buy that line. It no longer satisfies me. Innocents die when we drop shite-tons of ordinance in our game of global stratego. That's a fact. That Iran was about to unleash nuclear holocaust on us or Israel is very much not.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:06 pm to eddieray
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1) Reagan
2) DOGE in theory, execution was haphazzard, rushed, and half assed.
3). At this point, someone honorable, mature, and non sociopathic would be an improvement
1. Reagan - I'll agree. He was likeable and at least not overtly destructive, although spending got out of control. Part of that was high interest expense, which was due to events that preceded his time in office.
2. DOGE - not a bad choice, but your critique is unwarranted. DOGE's job was to expose waste/corruption, inefficiency and excess and they did. At the same time, Congress, the judiciary and the news media fought it tooth and nail. The argument was that the US federal govt cannot cut spending because it will mean cutting jobs, harm the economy, etc. IOW, same Keynesian logic that got us into this perilous hole to begin with. At least Trump made the attempt while the political left was violently opposed, so you might take that into consideration. The executive branch cannot singlehandedly end our addiction to monetary and fiscal stimulus.
But since you think DOGE was botched, why not vote for having repaired the integrity of our southern border and deporting illegal immigrants who use scarce resources, or break the law? Same principle as DOGE, our welfare state can't afford that. We can't pay healthcare costs, etc., for the 3rd world. Can't even afford it for our own citizens. Wouldn't you agree? But still, it's a non-stop battle in the streets, literally, and in the courts, for Immigration Control to do their jobs.
Trump's biggest failure to date, IMO, is not getting us completely out of Ukraine. Unlike Iran, I can't see any US interest in fighting a proxy war at the border of Russia. Costly, dangerous and destructive with no reason for being there, IMO.
Iran, on the other hand, was being supported by Russia and China and built into a military power that could eventually destabilize global energy production and distribution. They've been extending their militia tentacles throughout the region. To the extent that people, like you, are complaining that this war is costly, they are acknowledging that fact. If your plan is to go the isolationist route and leave the rest to sort out the oil situation among themselves, best to start supporting trade isolationism too , and immediately because we have to be 100% self-sufficient when the next conflict comes along. There are two other global powers with the ability to take control of that situation in our absence, Russia and China.
3. someone honorable, mature, and non sociopathic would be an improvement.
That's not a name. Opposition is not a position and labels aren't a valid critique.
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:14 pm to ChineseBandit58
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a. A nation who massacres children and rapes women and tortures men for "not following orders, a nation that supports terrorist groups all over the earth,
So when are we attacking Israel?
Posted on 3/15/26 at 6:37 pm to AUCom96
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I hope so, but America was attacked in that instance. We have not been in this one. This is yet another of those "pre-emptive" wars that our government asks us to suppose some catastrophe if we don't lay waste to a sovereign nation. You choose to buy that line. It no longer satisfies me. Innocents die when we drop shite-tons of ordinance in our game of global stratego. That's a fact. That Iran was about to unleash nuclear holocaust on us or Israel is very much not.
In case you haven't noticed Iran have been at war with us killing our innocent people for 47 years. They have vowed to destroy America. Hammas which is Iran killed 1000 "innocent" people in one day. In order to keep innocent people alive preemptive strikes are what's needed. Innocents? Had America and Europe preemptively struck NAZI Germany millions of "Innocent" lives would have been saved. Your way of thinking is more dangerous and destructive than preemptive wars are.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 6:56 pm to Kikicaca
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In order to keep innocent people alive preemptive strikes are what's needed. Innocents? Had America and Europe preemptively struck NAZI Germany millions of "Innocent" lives would have been saved. Your way of thinking is more dangerous and destructive than preemptive wars are.
Follow that logic out in every possibility and if where that leads you doesn't horrify you, you need help.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:46 pm to wdhalgren
Really. How many people are actually influenced by these folks?
A million? Yea whatever
A million? Yea whatever
Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:49 pm to Tantal
The Jews think Christ boiling in hell in his own excrement. The Muslims think he’s only a prophet.
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:09 pm to Tantal
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They're both evil, but Iran hasn't blackmailed or bribed our government the way that Israel has.
And how do you know that ?? This has all the common sense declaration that the democrats have when they claim blacks cannot get identification.
I do not understand the rampant hatred do Israel I see bubbling to the surface on this board from time to time. It makes me think you are actually part of the intifada seeking to eliminate all but worship of the goat-humpers.
No country is perfect - but some are abjectly evil - and there is no evil that is in the same league as the insane clerics running Iran and its terror networks.
Israel is the closest thing to a loyal nation we have had since WWII. But make no mistake = with the likelyhood that America will again become governed by the corrupt democrat fraud regime, They are being smart to keep some distance between them and us.
Would YOU stake YOUR life on the promise that a democrat-run government would not fold to the next demand made by the radical islamists??
Israel has to make that computation every time any conflict occurs. They want to be our ally, but they will not stake their existence on the hope that the democrats will not stab them in the back.
I sure would not.
Frankly, there is absolutely no logic behind the vitriol and hatred toward Israel that keeps oozing into the discourse on this board.
It's either abject evil or unmeasurable stupidity.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 9:14 pm to AUCom96
Crack open your OT and then call God evil for commanding the Israelites to wage war on the Canaanites.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 3/15/26 at 10:28 pm to eddieray
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eddieray
You perpetually lie about Trump. Get a new alter, this one has zero credibility.
Posted on 3/15/26 at 10:58 pm to ChineseBandit58
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And to me, there is absolutely no question about who is the more evil between Iran and Israel.
I don't think that's just self-evident to you.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:40 am to AUCom96
My logic is horror? Let's look at your logic
World War II was the deadliest conflict in human history, resulting in an estimated 70 to 85 million deaths worldwide, or roughly 3% of the 1939 global population. The conflict included around 25 million military deaths and over 38-50 million civilian deaths, with the Soviet Union and China suffering the highest total casualties.
Imagin had we taken out Hitler and Hirohito in 1939.
World War II was the deadliest conflict in human history, resulting in an estimated 70 to 85 million deaths worldwide, or roughly 3% of the 1939 global population. The conflict included around 25 million military deaths and over 38-50 million civilian deaths, with the Soviet Union and China suffering the highest total casualties.
Imagin had we taken out Hitler and Hirohito in 1939.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 4:51 am
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:59 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
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So when are we attacking Israel?
As far as intelligence get rid of Jerry Sienfeld and keep the "Little" in your name. Do you actually believe what you posted?
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 5:00 am
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:45 am to TrueTiger
Trump's long term legacy will be if he reversed the destruction of the American culture or not. That was the core foundation of what got him elected. All the foreign stuff won't be remembered in the future the same way as people will talk about "remember when we were a good safe Christian nation".
Imo he is failing on this front, and disappointing up to this point.
Imo he is failing on this front, and disappointing up to this point.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:04 am to HagaDaga
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Imo he is failing on this front, and disappointing up to this point.
The a hole in The Breakfast Club is a perfect description of you
Haga Daga
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 7:07 am
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:07 am to ChineseBandit58
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I'm a simple man - when forced to take a side alway choose the least evil
Siding with the lesser of two evils is still choosing to ally with evil.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:07 am to ChineseBandit58
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I do not buy into the hate Israel crowd. I'm a simple man - when forced to take a side alway choose the least evil. And to me, there is absolutely no question about who is the more evil between Iran and Israel.
Well said. I believe most people fit this description
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:08 am to Boodis Man
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Tucker 'fawns' over Islam? Anyone got some receipts for that?
Listen to his podcast. I use to listen to it daily, but stopped. Not because of his constant whining over Israel, but because he felt the need to trickle in some kind of islam love.
Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:09 am to ChineseBandit58
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a nation whose mission cooperates with peaceful nations and is governed by democratic processes and only fights to defend itself - a nation that has been a steadfast friend of the USA and is willing to do 'dirty work' that OUR nation is 'just too good' to do, a nation that patterns its form of government after our own founding principles.
What nation is this?
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