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Re: Vax; Why hasn’t there been a transition?
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:27 am
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:27 am
A transition to the legacy type of Vax, ala Flu Shot?
Obviously $$$ right?
Seems evil to know the mRNA is ineffective and causes side effects and not pivot to something safe and proven
Obviously $$$ right?
Seems evil to know the mRNA is ineffective and causes side effects and not pivot to something safe and proven
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:32 am to Lsut81
Because the people who are depopulating the planet are evil.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:45 am to Lsut81
I think it's a mixture of there still being enough people weak-minded enough to be terrified of the current forms of COVID (ran into someone in my building yesterday and they are still masking, and it wasn't even a good mask) and that backing off now would mean having to admit they were wrong.
The first point is about money and power. If people are afraid enough, they'll give up liberty and money for the belief they are being kept safe.
The second point is that those still pushing the fear simply can't afford to admit they are/were wrong. For the politicians (President, CDC, Congress), that means admitting they over-reacted and are now (because DHH is still funding tons of pro-vax/booster ads) responsible for increasing deaths from vax-related/caused complications.
Now double that blame for the drug manufacturers.
They don't want to be trapped in this hole they've dug so they continue trying to dig deeper in the hopes it eventually leads upward. People like this will go to astonishing lengths to avoid taking responsibility for something so large.
The first point is about money and power. If people are afraid enough, they'll give up liberty and money for the belief they are being kept safe.
The second point is that those still pushing the fear simply can't afford to admit they are/were wrong. For the politicians (President, CDC, Congress), that means admitting they over-reacted and are now (because DHH is still funding tons of pro-vax/booster ads) responsible for increasing deaths from vax-related/caused complications.
Now double that blame for the drug manufacturers.
They don't want to be trapped in this hole they've dug so they continue trying to dig deeper in the hopes it eventually leads upward. People like this will go to astonishing lengths to avoid taking responsibility for something so large.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:25 pm to Lsut81
Because legacy flu doesn’t equal emergency declaration. If that declaration goes away so does the shots that were never fully approved
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:45 pm to Lsut81
There's no "transitioning" as long as this Potato is still able to use executive branch emergency powers and keep extending this Scamdemic. He was able to get another 90 days without any co-equal branch calling his bullshite and putting an end to this farce.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 1:05 pm to Lsut81
Novavax has a traditional vax on the market. Think it was released several months ago.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:00 pm to Tigerfan1274
quote:
Novavax has a traditional vax on the market. Think it was released several months ago
It's not full blown traditional, it still requires a second shot at the 21 day mark. That's where your red flag antenna should go up and ask, why do I need a 2nd round of juice in my arm so quickly after the first? Doesn't make any sense but I'll give you this, it is the closest thing now we have to what the true traditional vaccines are suppose to be.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:09 pm to Tomatocantender
I wouldn't accept the "one dose is traditional" and "two doses isn't traditional" distinction. You've got plenty of other vaccines that require multiple doses. Time frames vary, but look at Hep B and shingles vaccines, e.g.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:23 pm to TigerDoc
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I wouldn't accept the "one dose is traditional" and "two doses isn't traditional" distinction. You've got plenty of other vaccines that require multiple doses. Time frames vary, but look at Hep B and shingles vaccines, e.g
Yeah but no. An airborne virus with 5 to 8 times lower transmissibility than the benchmark virus of chickenpox is traditionally a 1-shot juice with annual boosters. This 2-shot nonsense got further solidified by the incompetent CDC changing the definition of vaccines. Go back to H1N1 only 15 yrs ago....ONE SHOT recombinant dna protein.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:47 pm to Lsut81
quote:Couple of reasons.
A transition to the legacy type of Vax, ala Flu Shot?
(1) The process takes about 5yrs.
(2) The process requires thousands of volunteers.
(3) CV19 has such a high mutation rate that mRNA rollouts even at q6mos are targeting irrelevant strains. Expand that timeframe 10-fold, and the resulting vax would be worthless.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:50 pm to Bard
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(ran into someone in my building yesterday and they are still masking, and it wasn't even a good mask)
These people are laughable. I see them daily and multiple times during the day, the mask is below their chin.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:54 pm to Tigerfan1274
quote:Not really. A traditional vax uses attenuated live virus, or killed virus.
Novavax has a traditional vax on the market.
Adjuvanted uses manufactured s-protein. The difference is it starts with the manufactured s-protein. Moderna/Pfizer employ mRNA to do the manufacturing.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:56 pm to NC_Tigah
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3) CV19 has such a high mutation rate that mRNA rollouts even at q6mos are targeting irrelevant strains
Which is why you don't overload the body with multiple rounds of mRNA in such a short period of time (remember 3 rounds within 6 months?) Which is why you don't lambast HCQ and then Ivermectin as ongoing treatments. And you continue to prop up therapeutics and prophylaxis so these mutations run off as less severe over the years. I know that you know this, but many times you come on this board and act like a gaslighter. Evidenced by your mutation language above...you fail to give both sides of the story.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:15 pm to Tomatocantender
quote:You don't want to go there.
Evidenced by your mutation language above...you fail to give both sides of the story.
But in case you think you might, do understand in advance I'm not "taking sides" here.
I'm just trying to answer what seemed to be a very reasonable question regarding traditional vaccines.
Coronavirus mutates rapidly regardless of subherd immunoresistance. A novel virus (as in CV19) will naturally and predictably evolve from a more virulent, less transmissible form to less virulent, more transmissible variants. It's a case where the vax is chasing strains, not causing their variance.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 1:15 am to NC_Tigah
Quote:”It’s a case where the vax is chasing strains,not causing their variance”.
Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche would disagree with you.”The mass vaccination program has driven natural selection and adaptation of more infectious SARS-CoV-2 variants that have now evolved to causing enhanced susceptibllity of vaccinees to infection(due to ADEI).
He warns that”SC-2 variants may also spill over from these human reservoirs to several other immunologically naive animal species,many of which have a reasonably high level of sequence homology in their ACE-2 receptor.”
That is happening,last I read Covid has been found in 29:different species of animals.Quite a few White tail deer have been infected among other animals.
Mink farms in the Netherlands with thousands of animals have been infected,some were dying of Covid and also infected workers.Thousands of minks have been euthanized to try and stop the spread.
It would be catastrophic if Covid pandemics broke out in livestock.He raises that possibility.
Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche would disagree with you.”The mass vaccination program has driven natural selection and adaptation of more infectious SARS-CoV-2 variants that have now evolved to causing enhanced susceptibllity of vaccinees to infection(due to ADEI).
He warns that”SC-2 variants may also spill over from these human reservoirs to several other immunologically naive animal species,many of which have a reasonably high level of sequence homology in their ACE-2 receptor.”
That is happening,last I read Covid has been found in 29:different species of animals.Quite a few White tail deer have been infected among other animals.
Mink farms in the Netherlands with thousands of animals have been infected,some were dying of Covid and also infected workers.Thousands of minks have been euthanized to try and stop the spread.
It would be catastrophic if Covid pandemics broke out in livestock.He raises that possibility.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 5:30 am to LSUA 75
Covid was being found in other species prior to the vaccines.
You don't remember the positive tests in tigers? I forget what others.
You don't remember the positive tests in tigers? I forget what others.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:03 am to Lsut81
Has liability protection been renewed ved yet? Curious if comirnity is available yet?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:16 am to Tomatocantender
quote:
It's not full blown traditional, it still requires a second shot at the 21 day mark. That's where your red flag antenna should go up and ask, why do I need a 2nd round of juice in my arm so quickly after the first? Doesn't make any sense but I'll give you this, it is the closest thing now we have to what the true traditional vaccines are suppose to be.
Lol my good god.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:20 am to Bard
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The second point is that those still pushing the fear simply can't afford to admit they are/were wrong. For the politicians (President, CDC, Congress), that means admitting they over-reacted and are now (because DHH is still funding tons of pro-vax/booster ads) responsible for increasing deaths from vax-related/caused complications.
Bing-motherf*cking-O.
There’s your answer. At this point, they would essentially be admitting that they were murderers, who didn’t do even the most basic research to determine how truly lethal these poisons were.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 7:28 am to crazy4lsu
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crazyFAUCI
Well I'll be damn, look who decided to join the party. Should I find that post of yours where you wanted the entire world force inoculated with mRNA in early 2021? Should I find the post where you tried to save face and then started talking about a "wider protein profile" for your Jesus Juice mRNA? How bout the plethora of posts where you talk about mRNA being lab ratted in 2001 and somehow that made it okay to put into worldwide inoculation operation in 2021? You are a complete fraud. Go away, nobody wants you in here doing your typical spamming where you copy n paste pages and pages of nonsense.
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