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Ranking the 2020 democrats
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:44 am
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:44 am
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Biden to me looks like the only contender to me.
Biden to me looks like the only contender to me.
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10. Sherrod Brown: How do you beat a populist like Trump who triumphed in Midwest? You could nominate a Midwestern populist like this senior senator from Ohio. Brown's liberal record matched with a gravelly voice that seems almost out of central casting could be the ticket for Democrats. Brown, though, has said he has no interest in running (and he's up for re-election to the Senate this fall). At the same time, it's somewhat hard to imagine Democrats nominating a white senator. Especially one with some question marks in his personal history.
9. Mitch Landrieu: If Democrats want an outsider with experience, then there are few people better than this two-term mayor of New Orleans who has never held federal office. As mayor, he removed Confederate monuments. Being mayor of a majority black city in a party that has a substantial black voting bloc and is becoming more urban could also pay off big. Yet, even with Trump in the White House, it's tough to imagine that a little-known mayor could win a major party nomination. Especially one with some potholes in his record.
8. Cory Booker: In what is shaping up to be a big field, Booker will have little difficulty generating press. He's been doing that since a documentary was made about his first run for mayor of Newark (It's a great documentary). Democrats also have a history of nominating first full-term black senators who have recently given a big Democratic National Convention speech. Want to know why Booker isn't higher? Google "Cory Booker" and "neo-liberal." Booker may have a major issue with the left intelligentsia due to his ties to Wall Street.
7. Steve Bullock: Bullock, if you don't know, is the two-term governor of Montana. That's a big part of Bullock's challenge; if he runs he will take on a whole bunch of candidates who are already known nationally. He is, well, not. But the party's growth in the West -- and the success of governors as presidential candidates -- means that a governor from this part of the country seems likely to emerge. Bullock looks best positioned to be that guy right now. He's been traveling to early voting states to lay the groundwork and refine a message about why -- and how -- Democrats need to expand their tent.
6. Eric Holder: The name of the former attorney general was on almost no one's lists at the start of 2018. But he's made clear in both his travel and his rhetoric of late that he is seriously open to running for president. In June, Holder acknowledged that running for president in 2020 is ""something that I'm considering." And he's already got a schtick against Trump; "Two guys from Queens," Holder said. "That would be interesting. New Yorkers know how to talk to other New Yorkers." Holder would likely be seen as former President Barack Obama's favorite in the race given the duo's long friendship. Presumably that is a good thing in the context of a Democratic primary.
5. Bernie Sanders: Sanders is one of the most beloved politicians within the Democratic Party (even though he's not technically a Democrat), with strong favorable ratings. He's a proven vote-getter in presidential primaries (earning 43% of the 2016 Democratic primary vote). And in a party that is shifting left, Sanders was left before it was cool. So why is Sanders not higher? He's a white male, and Democrats may be looking to turn the page from 2016. Do Democrats really want another primary in which they have to argue about whether one of the major candidates is actually a Democrat or an independent?
4. Kirsten Gillibrand: There may be no more predictive qualities in Democratic primaries in 2018 than being anti-Trump and being a woman. Gillibrand has both of those qualities. She's voted less with Trump than any other senator. Being from New York will also give a megaphone (see Trump, Donald). Why isn't she higher? Besides the fact that there are other women running, she may have an authenticity problem when that quality seems to be at a premium. Although she is liberal now when it is politically expedient, she was a moderate member of the House.
3. Kamala Harris: If Democrats are looking to draw a very sharp contrast with Trump, Harris makes the most sense. The first-term California senator was the first black and first Indian woman elected to the Senate from the Golden State. She comes from a law and order background; she was attorney general of California before running for the Senate. And she's from a massive Democratic donor state -- meaning the money would be there for her if she did decide to run. As to that: Harris' mind seems pretty made up; she's writing a memoir set to publish in 2019, which is a sort of necessary move for someone running for president.
2. Elizabeth Warren: Unlike 2016, when the Massachusetts senator was doing nothing to indicate she might run, Warren is making a series of moves that suggest she is a likely entrant in 2020. Warren has already reached out to politicians in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, according to The New York Times. If Democrats are looking for some sort of compromise candidate between the establishment and the party base, Warren could fit the bill somewhat nicely. Republicans repeatedly insist she is their ideal general election candidate against Trump, believing that Warren is simply too liberal to possibly win nationally.
1. Joe Biden: The former vice president may not seem like the perfect fit for this moment in the Democratic Party -- he's older (75), white, male, and has been in electoral politics for more than four decades. And yet, Biden has something that no other candidate in the field has. First, he's on top of early polls gauging the 2020 field. He's leading in national polls, early primary state polls and in a matchup against Trump. That's no guarantee Biden wins the nomination -- but if history holds, it's an indicator he'll be right there until the end.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:47 am to JS87
I literally see nothing there of substance, where’s that NY socialist? Why isn’t she on the list?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:48 am to JS87
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Biden to me looks like the only contender to me.
I think Ms. Harris will make a good run at it, so will ms. Gillibrand
Hickenlooper is absent from the list. He would be a great candidate for the dems, especially paired with booker or harris.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:52 am to Bass Tiger
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where’s that NY socialist? Why isn’t she on the list?
She's only 28
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:05 pm to JS87
My money is on a Bernie/Warren ticket, which would be the worst ticket in US history. Can’t wait.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:06 pm to JS87
If that is the Democrat's bench, they are in really sad shape. Most of those people are incredibly divisive, with track records that are observable and poor. And with the exception of Brown and Bullock, who I don't know well, and Biden, who can be likeable but creepy, they are all totally without any semblance of personal charm and very unlikeable. Do they really think an independent voter who voted for Trump or Bush is going to vote for extremists like Holder, or Booker or Harris?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:27 pm to Jon Ham
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My money is on a Bernie/Warren ticket, which would be the worst ticket in US history. Can’t wait.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:28 pm to JS87
Lol, none of those losers can beat TRUMP!
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:29 pm to JS87
All those will be destroyed by Trump
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:30 pm to JS87
Eric Holder? Seriously?
I think Harris and even Booker would be higher on the list if they want another light skinned black person as nominee.
I think Harris and even Booker would be higher on the list if they want another light skinned black person as nominee.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:33 pm to Jon Ham
If she could shut up about her fictional Native American heritage, I'm not sure Warren would be that bad of a candidate.
Bernie would be a catastrophe of a candidate though. He might be an okay candidate if he hadn't gone around calling himself a socialist last time, but it's too late to undo that now. Some of his policy ideas (making college more affordable, reining in Wall Street) actually might be attractive to politically moderate people if he didn't couple it with socialist talk.
Bernie would be a catastrophe of a candidate though. He might be an okay candidate if he hadn't gone around calling himself a socialist last time, but it's too late to undo that now. Some of his policy ideas (making college more affordable, reining in Wall Street) actually might be attractive to politically moderate people if he didn't couple it with socialist talk.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:42 pm to JS87
Biden is a terrible messenger. He can’t hold a thought together long enough to lay out a comprehensive idea in 30 seconds or less. In the way people couldn’t stand to listen to Hillary similar with Joe. Maybe Scott Walker is a better comparison, looked great on paper, snoozefest on stage!!
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:46 pm to Somebody2
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by Somebody2If she could shut up about her fictional Native American heritage
She doesn't typically bring it up, but Trump sure will. It will be quite entertaining to watch her have to continually defend her Cherokee blood. Talk about cultural appropriation .
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He might be an okay candidate if he hadn't gone around calling himself a socialist last time
Sadly, I'm not so sure being a socialist prevents one from being an American President these days. We have entered the age old period of complacency where a prosperous nation begins to forget what made them successful in the first place and starts to lean toward idealism that will inevitably sink the ship.
My hope is that Americans watch Europe sink first and then promptly throw these socialists overboard.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:46 pm to Andychapman13
Biden's gotten around 2% of the vote every time he's run for POTUS by himself.
I'm highly skeptical of how good of a candidate he would be.
I'm highly skeptical of how good of a candidate he would be.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:50 pm to JS87
The Dem's need to have Maxine Waters for VP.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:51 pm to JS87
Holder can’t be a serious contender, but he can be such a “disruptive force” that he could serious bring someone down the way Chris Christie did to Rubio.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:52 pm to JS87
No Avenatti/Daniels ticket, no care
Posted on 7/19/18 at 12:54 pm to JS87
I have them all tied for last place.
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