re: Rand will vote to BLOCK Trump ED on border funding.

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You are about to be called a liar.

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No doubt.

I voted against Trump as well, if it makes them feel better

I'm embarrassed to say that I voted for McCain as the lesser of two evils after supporting Ron Paul in the primaries. I've then voted for Johnson in the last two elections.

Come at me, bros.

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But you are overlooking the prerequisite that there actually BE an "emergency." Trump has even admitted that there is NOT an "emergency."

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There is an emergency. Several 100k people are illegally crossing our southern border every year.

The cost to Taxpayers to support illegal immigration is over 100 billion a year.

Hell you dems could almost pay for your Bernie Sanders free college for all Americans if we deported illegal immigrants and stopped them from coming.

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You people are just so damned predictable. I have never voted for a Dem in a national election since Phil Gramm switched parties in 1983. And I think Bernie's platform is the height of idiocy.

Both border security and illegal immigration are "issues" ... even "important issues." Being an "important issue" is not synonymous with being an "emergency." Congress has been jacking with both issues for many, many years, and illegal immigration is actually DOWN.

Building Trump's big, beautiful concrete wall is certainly ONE potential response to those issues, but it is HARDLY the only such response, and its construction is thus NOT an "emergency."

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The problem with every other "solution" is if someone steps foot on American soil they get to immediately claim asylum.

Sensor, drones, more border agents etc. do not address the first and most important aspect of the problem.

A physical barrier stops the pregnant woman from stepping over the border, spitting out a child and having an anchor baby

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All decent arguments in favor of building a Wall. None remotely relevant to whether there exists an "emergency" for purposes for the NEA.

... And that's the problem with libertarians. They are pro mass immigration and outsourcing.

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And that's the problem with libertarians. They are pro mass immigration and outsourcing.

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We aren’t pro anything other than liberty. What people do with their liberty is up to them.

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So be Nancy Pelosi's bitch instead

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Being someone's bitch = Alpha

Not giving a frick what other politicians want you to do and voting how you want = beta cuck


tell me more

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All decent arguments in favor of building a Wall. None remotely relevant to whether there exists an "emergency" for purposes for the NEA.

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The problem with your theory is what most presidents have uses it for haven't even been about the US.

At least Trumps use in this case had to do with the US itself.

Jan. 2, 1995: The National Emergency With Respect to Prohibiting Transactions with Terrorists Who Threaten to Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process placed economic sanctions in response to the Jerusalem bombing.

March 15, 1995: The National Emergency With Respect to Prohibiting Certain Transactions with Respect to the Development of Iranian Petroleum Resources was an effort to prevent potential deals between oil companies.

November 3, 1997: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Sudanese Government Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Sudan implemented economic and trade sanctions.

June 26, 2001: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Who Threaten International Stabilization Efforts in the Western Balkans imposed sanctions on those aiding Albanian insurgents in Macedonia

March 6, 2003: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Zimbabwe was an effort to punish associates of Robert Mugabe.

June 16, 2006: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Undermining Democratic Processes or Institutions in Belarus was in response to charges of fraud in the Belarus presidential election.

Oct 27, 2006: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Democratic Republic of the Congo was in response to violence around the Congolese presidential election runoff.

Aug 1, 2007: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Undermining the Sovereignty of Lebanon was in response to a breakdown of the rule of law in Lebanon.

April 12, 2010: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia

February 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya froze the assets of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

July 25, 2011: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Transnational Criminals was in response to the rise in crime by specific organizations: Los Zetas (Mexico), The Brothers’ Circle (former Soviet Union countries), the Yakuza (Japan), and the Camorra (Italy).

May 16, 2012: The National Emergency With Respect to Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen addressed political unrest within the Yemen government.

Should be enough to get the point across

I agree with Rand Paul on almost every vote he takes.

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Trump is well within his authority to secure the border by any means necessary.

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My version, popular with many, is that "congress decided $1.7 billion additional to what was already spent would be plenty to do. No one thinks that should be all, ever. But it's congresses job and they did it.

The rest is grandstanding so rush and Anne Coulter don't castrate him. There's no emergency re spending more and more. Spend the 1.7 billion wisely. Get back to us later if you are not impeached."

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This is why Rand will always be Rand.

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Rand Paul is a joke , if he decides to run in 2024 , Trump supporters need to remember this , and not vote for him , even if he were the Republican nominee.