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re: Rand Paul Uninvited to White House Picnic

Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by SmackoverHawg
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:26 pm to
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Well, what is he? Libertarian or Republican? You tell me what else RINO means.

Team Rand.
Posted by Da Sheik
Mar a Lago
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:26 pm to
frick him, never thought I’d say that. He is a little bitch show girl.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:27 pm to
Thanks for answering the question …
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:27 pm to
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Rand Paul/Milei/Massie all believe this. They believe open borders are an assault on private property.


Nowhere did he state that.


In a February 2013 Washington Times op-ed, he staked out yet another position. The man who once called the DREAM Act a politicized form of lawless amnesty wrote: “After ensuring border security, then I would normalize the status of the 11 million undocumented citizens so they can join the workforce and pay taxes. I would normalize them at a rate of about 2 million per year. I would start with DREAM Act kids, children brought here illegally as minors.”

He joined Obama on that.


This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:30 pm to
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Thoughts?
This is stupid on Trump's part. But, Paul trying to reduce funding for the wall to 6 billion is stupid too.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:30 pm to
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I don't need the rest of anything. I look at his actions and his words. He stated clearly he is for unlimited work visas.


In a February 2013 Washington Times op-ed, he staked out yet another position. The man who once called the DREAM Act a politicized form of lawless amnesty wrote: “After ensuring border security, then I would normalize the status of the 11 million undocumented citizens so they can join the workforce and pay taxes. I would normalize them at a rate of about 2 million per year. I would start with DREAM Act kids, children brought here illegally as minors.”

He joined Obama on that.



And?

How you strike a balance between deportations and integrations into society for immigrants that are already here is a separate issue from border security/open borders.

You can disagree with him but that does not make him in favor of open borders
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79924 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:34 pm to
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Get on the train or get ran over by it.
Come on man. You're a physician.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:34 pm to
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And?


And he stated this in 2014:


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This is especially evident when it comes to immigration. We have no intention or interest in sending all 12 million illegal immigrants back to Mexico, as some have been led to believe. We are a nation of immigrants and we value our immigrants. We have to extol their assets and show that there is no animus toward anyone. So if we can show our empathy about their situation and explain our positions properly, we can be a lot better off.


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You can disagree with him but that does not make him in favor of open borders


But it does. His words and actions on immigration is all the proof I need. He would love open borders if we reduced the welfare state.

And that's pretty damn stupid of him.

Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8979 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:36 pm to
Guess you didn't read my post so I'll just copy paste

Please try to read slowly and comprehend this time.


How you strike a balance between deportations and integrations into society for immigrants that are already here is a separate issue from border security/open borders.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31604 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:36 pm to
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Get on the train or get ran over by it.
Come on man. You're a physician.

I'm also from Arkansas. Maybe it should be RAND over by it?
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:37 pm to
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In a February 2013 Washington Times op-ed, he staked out yet another position. The man who once called the DREAM Act a politicized form of lawless amnesty wrote: “After ensuring border security, then I would normalize the status of the 11 million undocumented citizens so they can join the workforce and pay taxes. I would normalize them at a rate of about 2 million per year. I would start with DREAM Act kids, children brought here illegally as minors.”

He joined Obama on that.


Trump tried the same thing in 2018 trading border security for amnesty. Is Trump open borders?

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House unveiled a proposal Thursday that provides a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million young immigrants living in the country illegally, in exchange for new restrictions on legal immigration and $25 billion in border security. The plan was applauded by some in Congress, but blasted by conservative activists as “amnesty” and slammed by a slew of Democrats, who accused President Donald Trump of holding “Dreamers” hostage to his hard-line immigration agenda.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:47 pm
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8979 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:38 pm to
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He would love open borders if we reduced the welfare state.



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There was a PEW study that added up data from a lot of different countries, and asked them, if you could, would you go to the United States? 600 million would come. We’re a country of 300 million, it would be a bit disruptive to have 600 million people show up, so it has to be an orderly process, and there is now a great religious sort of struggle and war going on [and people] who for many different reasons, don’t like Americans and would come and kill us


Yeah sounds like it

Why didn't you post that part of the quote btw? Seems like you stopped one sentence before it for some reason
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6978 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:39 pm to
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How you strike a balance between deportations and integrations into society for immigrants that are already here is a separate issue from border security/open borders.


Here illegally... they should be deported.


Period.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8979 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:41 pm to
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Here illegally... they should be deported.


Period.


OK. Then you say "I disagree with Rand Paul when he says he wouldn't deport everyone"

Instead you said "Rand Paul is open borders"

That's some CNN anchor woke college professor level f8ggotry
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:42 pm
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6978 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:41 pm to
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Why didn't you post that part of the quote btw? Seems like you stopped one sentence before it for some reason


Mo reason to stop. He is simply saying he would prefer it to be orderly.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6978 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:43 pm to
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OK. Then you say "I disagree with Rand Paul when he says he wouldn't deport everyone"


No I say what it is.

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Instead you said "Rand Paul is open borders"



Because he is.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8979 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:44 pm to
Hot damn you're retarded
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6978 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:49 pm to
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Hot damn you're retarded



Nah... You are just blind because you want to believe it's not true. Maybe it's you NEED it to not be true.


1- With a reduced welfare state, he is for unlimited immigration. His words.

2- After getting elected in the rise of the tea party, he changed his tune and sided with Obama.

3- He has already sought to end Trump's power of diplomacy in using tariffs.

4- He is a libertarian who had to run as a republican to get elected.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8979 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:53 pm to
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With a reduced welfare state, he is for unlimited immigration. His words.


Wrong

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2- After getting elected in the rise of the tea party, he changed his tune and sided with Obama.


On one issue. Do you think Trump would disagree with Obama on every single issue?

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3- He has already sought to end Trump's power of diplomacy in using tariffs.


Good. frick dumbass protectionist economics.

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4- He is a libertarian who had to run as a republican to get elected.


Sweet. Republicans are mostly just as happy to ruin the country as dems. IDGAF if someone steals one of their seats
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21889 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:54 pm to
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