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re: Rand Paul says the true cost of the tariffs is $2 trillion in taxes

Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
4104 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:40 pm to
Time for his neighbor to light his arse up again.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3518 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:41 pm to
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Has either him or his Dad ever been Pro anything.


Absolutely. They’re pro-American. In fact, they were the original, America-First-ers. The OG. Today, “America First,” really only means, “Trump First,” … which is why you see supremely stupid motherfrickers like Riverside and Geaux-whatever-the-frick-his-shitty-name-is and this anonymous pussy, above, from New Mexico shitting on real, actual Conservatives and calling for them to be primaried (how fricking stupid can they be?) when real, actual Conservatives stand behind real, actual Conservative principles and policies instead of gargling with Trump’s semen like they do.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6002 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:42 pm to
Rand Paul is a bigger fool than Massie. He knows they will never cut spending so the reality is he is against both.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14434 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:43 pm to
1) you dont have to buy the imported product (dont have to pay the tax)
2) purpose of the tariff is to incentivise the repatriation of domestic production, thus removing the tariff on those products

short term its a tax increase that is partially absorbed by the importer/seller to maintain market share while the difference is passed on as a higher product

long term there will be more domestic production, negating the cost effect of tariffs

you cant fix in a day with no impact the effects of DC allowing US industry to relocate out of border and outsource out of border.....
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9076 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:44 pm to
Tariffs generate revenue.

Staying out of the debate on whether it helps are harms American citizens, we absolutely should have that revenue earmarked for specific purposes.

Nobody here trust any member in Congress to spend it appropriately.

IMO, Trump missed a perfect opportunity to tie any tariff revenue to a direct deposit to social security. At least try and help something we all know is a dire need vs just dumping it into the general coffers.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9278 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Not when we don't have to pay income tax. If Trump pulls that off it will be the greatest move in presidential history.


I so want this to be the answer... Not even a consumption tax, if the goods or servers are produced domestically. But we will still need to reduce the cost of production here in the U.S. otherwise; else we'll never be competitive.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3506 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:52 pm to
Well, he's got at least 3.3 trillion in new foreign investment directly resulting from said tariffs. And more to come. So, umm, what's the problem? If it makes dollars it makes sense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297985 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:54 pm to
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Panicans are retired boomers



And you populists are Democrats who cling to identity issues like class and generation.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:56 pm to
Two things about Rand:

He cant fight;
He is correct about tariffs.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:57 pm to
Tariffs are one of these things that would be blasted by MAGA world if anyone else did it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78334 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Yall didn’t pay in your fair share when you were in the work force
What if you maxed out every year? Did that person pay their fair share? And, isn't "fair share" a progressive leftist commie phrase?
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6002 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 2:59 pm to
Tariffs haven’t impacted 99.9% of the population in the slightest. You just see the word “tariff” and pucker your anus because you think the Democrats are free market capitalist which is laughable
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3506 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Tariffs are one of these things that would be blasted by MAGA world if anyone else did it.


Not even a little bit. Any politician who tells me he is going to implement a tariff policy that will eliminate our need to pay income tax gets my full support. As it should for everyone else too.
Posted by antman123
Member since Feb 2014
198 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:06 pm to
Yes, because Trump didnt run on imposing tariffs in all 3 of his campaigns. Can't believe he fooled all of his supporters with these tariffs.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 3:07 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297985 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:08 pm to
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Can't believe he fooled all of his supporters with these tariffs.


The same people who complained about Obama's tariffs.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:10 pm to
What is the cost of shipping jobs and industries overseas that don’t follow our environmental HR DEI and safety rules? Our lawmakers tariff our own companies with regulations and red tape. Tariffs on other countries solve this problem.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:11 pm to
Trump has been talking about evening the playing field via tariffs since at least the 90s. He has had the same message forever.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Tariffs are one of these things that would be blasted by MAGA world if anyone else did it.


False. Ross Perot called it. We are shipping our jobs overseas to people who don’t follow any of our HR Environmental DEI safety laws. How else to you even the playing field?
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
31123 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:23 pm to
I’d be with Rand if no body used tariffs but the only way to level the playing field is to enforce our own.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5428 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:25 pm to
Fair share as in I put max in and will get zero out because yall drew down more than put in
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