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Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:06 am to kingbob
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Tariffs are taxes,
Nope. The only reason the word tax is associated with tariffs, is because of who collects it; the government. The money is paid by an importer, and it goes directly into the Treasury. If the importer decides to raise his prices to cover the tariff, then the consumer can reject the product. At that point the "tax" has already been paid. So if the product doesnt sell, the importer goes under. Therefore, not a consumer tax, At All
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Congress is the one with that power in the Constitution.
Then tell them to quit passing laws giving the exec branch permission to do that very thing. Also, the Constitution clearly says the exec negotiates with foreign countries. Not the Congress. Theres actually a law (Logan Act) that enforces that rule
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The Logan Act criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen. The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position.
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The act was named for George Logan who tried to intervene in an undeclared war between the US and France over France seizing U.S. ships trading with Great Britain
The act was specifically put in because a man tried to interfere with the trading policy of the US govt
Sound familiar?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:12 am to Taxing Authority
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If you cannot discern between Rand Paul and democrats, you’ve lost the plot, and joined a cult.
Morons like you pushed Massie, both Pauls, Romney, McCain, Ryan, the Bushes, McConnell, Murkowski, Collins and they somehow always seem to vote with the DIMs on critical issues
Maybe its you thats lost the plot. Invest in a lighted mirror, perhaps
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:13 am to RobbBobb
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Tariffs are taxes,
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Nope. The only reason the word tax is associated with tariffs, is because of who collects it; the government. The money is paid by an importer, and it goes directly into the Treasury.

This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 10:13 am
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:17 am to RobbBobb
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Morons like you pushed Massie, both Pauls, Romney, McCain, Ryan, the Bushes, McConnell, Murkowski, Collins and they somehow always seem to vote with the DIMs on critical issues

Meanwhile... Trump endorsed Charlie Crist, Kevin McCarthy, Mike Johnson. on, and. this guy too:
Who is pushing for RINOs?
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 10:18 am
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:21 am to RaoulDuke504
If I were a fellow GOP Senator and Senate was in session, I'd have a hard time not shoving his arse across the aisle every damn chance I got. 

Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:22 am to SDVTiger
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If this place doesnt realize Paul and Massie are losers by now they never will
a maverick! so brave!

Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:23 am to Taxing Authority
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Go ahead and find any posts where I've promosted
Learn to read
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Morons like you
You also promoted Rob! to beat Trump, which is the pinnacle of all things GOPe. It was their last desperate grasp. And another nail in the Rand coffin. Since he only backed Trump after Trump was elected
RINO to his core
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:24 am to RobbBobb
quote:I did. You somehow blamed me.
Learn to read

And again...
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You also promoted
quote:Indeed. Have no idea w\hy Trump endorsed those folks.
RINO to his core
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:26 am to Taxing Authority
I see you are struggling today. Point to me in the definition where tariffs are defined as a consumer tax?
Word for word what I typed out
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A tariff is a duty imposed by a national government, customs territory, or supranational union on imports of goods and is paid by the importer.
Word for word what I typed out
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:27 am to Taxing Authority
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RINO to his core
Indeed. Have no idea w\hy Trump endorsed those folks.
And yet Rand endorsed Trump
Keep struggling
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:27 am to RobbBobb
poor poor CUCKING authority!



Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:28 am to RobbBobb
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Nope. The only reason the word tax is associated with tariffs, is because of who collects it; the government. The money is paid by an importer, and it goes directly into the Treasury. If the importer decides to raise his prices to cover the tariff, then the consumer can reject the product. At that point the "tax" has already been paid. So if the product doesnt sell, the importer goes under. Therefore, not a consumer tax, At All
This is correct.
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quote:
The Logan Act criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen. The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position.
quote:
The act was named for George Logan who tried to intervene in an undeclared war between the US and France over France seizing U.S. ships trading with Great Britain
The act was specifically put in because a man tried to interfere with the trading policy of the US govt
Sound familiar?
It does.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:29 am to RobbBobb
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Word for word what I typed out

If you think tariffs are paid by the importer, why wouldn't we tax all corporations at 100%?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:29 am to Taxing Authority
Don't leave the rest off. Who pays the tariff?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:29 am to RobbBobb
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And yet Rand endorsed Trump

Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:30 am to BCreed1
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Don't leave the rest off. Who pays the tariff?


Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:31 am to RobbBobb
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A tariff is a duty imposed by a national government, customs territory, or supranational union on imports of goods and is paid by the importer.
Word for word what I typed out
It was a selling point by globalists.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:32 am to Taxing Authority
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Taxing Authority
Now you are getting it. The importer does.
The same importer has to pay that tariff to the Gov. The end.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:33 am to BCreed1
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Now you are getting it. The importer does.

Just like the store pays the sales tax.
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