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Ralph Abraham: It’s time to be honest about Louisiana Medicaid Expansion

Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:53 pm
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As a practicing physician in a poor, rural area of our State, I know first-hand how important it is to make sure all Louisiana residents have access to affordable, quality health care. But the growth trajectory of John Bel’s Medicaid expansion plan is going to hurt those it is intended to help by reducing access and bankrupting our State.

While running for governor, John Bel Edwards promised Louisianians that he wouldn’t raise taxes. But just months after taking office, he imposed the largest tax hike in state history.

Four years later, Edwards is once again campaigning on a lie that will have devastating consequences for our state.

This time, Governor Edwards tells us that we don’t need to worry about the soaring cost of Medicaid expansion in our state.


But unlike Edwards, the numbers don’t lie. And they show that his Medicaid expansion costs will bankrupt our state if we don’t get a handle on it.

State spending on Medicaid is growing at a faster rate in Louisiana than any other state in the country. The Louisiana Department of Health’s budget has grown by an average of 10.5% every year since Governor Edwards took office. That equates to an additional $1 billion of spending every year for the last four years. One. Billion. Each. Year.

The Louisiana Department of Health’s budget now takes up over 50% of our total state budget. That means there’s limited resources to invest in other critical areas like infrastructure, education, help for the physically and mentally disabled and natural disaster recovery.

And it’s only getting worse. Starting in 2020, the percentage of state matching dollars that Louisiana will have to provide for Medicaid expansion will increase from 7% to 10%. In a multi-billion dollar program, 3% is a big number. Governor Edwards has no plan to pay for this. LDH has admitted that we are going to have to start tapping into limited state general fund dollars to fund Medicaid expansion, but they’ve never mentioned how much, and they haven’t budgeted for it.

According to the Edwards administration’s initial estimates, roughly 300,000 were eligible for Medicaid expansion. Now, over 500,000 have signed up for the program, and the numbers are expected to continue growing. Roughly 4 out of every 10 Louisiana residents are on government funded healthcare right now. It won’t be long before that number passes 50%. Either his administration flat out lied about the cost of the program, or they didn’t know. I don’t know which one is worse.

What I do know is that the legislative auditor has already uncovered that the Louisiana Department of Health wasted at least $85 million on people who weren’t eligible for Medicaid, including nearly 2,000 recipients who make more than $100,000. That doesn’t include working individuals with good private insurance who have dropped their coverage for free government health care.

The soaring cost of Medicaid expansion alone is alarming. But the lack of transparency may be the worst part. Earlier this year, LDH admitted to underestimating expansion costs by more than $400 million. They slipped that in at a legislative Medicaid subcommittee hearing. Just last month, Governor Edwards’ administration admitted that they have no ability to track another $420 million they are handing over to Medicaid Managed Care Organizations through an “incentive” program. that pays the MCOs to deliver good healthcare outcomes. Not only are we already paying the MCOs more than $8 billion to achieve quality outcomes, but even worse, LDH admitted that they have absolutely no clue how the MCOs are actually spending the money. That’s unacceptable.

I believe it’s our responsibility to take care of those who cannot take care of themselves and give a hand up to those who need it. That is not what this Governor has done. Despite Edwards’ claims of balancing the state budget, he’s driving the state right over another fiscal cliff. That doesn’t help anyone.


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You may hate Bobby Jindal but he was absolutely dead on in doing everything he could to make sure this expansion never happened for as long as he was Governor.

We can't afford it and it's going to cost us money we don't have and will never have if Louisiana's economy stays in the shitter.

Voters were warned about this money pit in 2015 but hey, they chose to lose their minds and sky scream over Vitter's hookers instead and elect an Obama and Hillary voter instead.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 2:59 pm to
If you look at basically any state, Medicaid is, by far, the biggest expenditure. It is INSANE.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112682 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:03 pm to
Not shocking considering our poor have disgusting diets
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:04 pm to
That isn't why.

It's all the children. Getting a "medical card" for a kid is pretty easy. Getting Medicaid as an adult, without disability, is tough.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112682 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:06 pm to
How can kids be that costly? I rarely went to the doctor as a child besides for shots and things like that
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37545 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:12 pm to
It’s not that kids are expensive, but they are never kicked off, and therefore are on it as adults
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:12 pm to
they get it pre-birth. that shite racks up. also think about all the premies, kids with disabilities, medicine, etc.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:13 pm to
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How can kids be that costly? I rarely went to the doctor as a child besides for shots and things like that



Because people who have no skin in the game go to the ER every time their child has a runny nose because they, "don't be playin' games with they kids' health."
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:13 pm to
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If you look at basically any state, Medicaid is, by far, the biggest expenditure. It is INSANE.



It's not just the poor signing up for free shite too.

We literally have working folks with good steady paying jobs who already have good private insurance and they're dropping it for "free" government health care insurance with this medicaid expansion.

We have to call them out too if we're going to shite on the poors for this.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112682 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:14 pm to
My experience in a BR emergency room was an eye opener
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23078 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:15 pm to
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Edwards, a Democrat in a Republican-leaning state, noted in his speech that his administration backed a bill that ultimately failed in the Legislature to mandate work requirements for able-bodied Medicaid recipients.


Found this is a recent Advocate article and thought it was interesting. How did this bill fail in our conservative legislature?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:19 pm to
He's missing a statistic.

He needs to compare the 7%, the 10% (both under an expanded insured base) to the 34% we used to have to pay for reimbursements to hospitals for uninsured care (with the feds paying the balance). Adjust everything for inflation, and then present those three numbers.

If the 7% or 10% number is larger than the 34%, then he's going to have a huge issue to run on, and it might actually cause him to win.

If the 34% number is higher, then he needs to find another battle to fight.

I do think the state was totally overwhelmed by the expansion sign-ups, which is what led to a lot of the fraud. The state is now checking medicaid rolls vs tax returns and W-2s, so that should help going forward.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:23 pm to
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. How did this bill fail in our conservative legislature?

no idea. when was that?

April 2019

quote:

Though Gov. John Bel Edwards previously said Louisiana would seek to impose work requirements on certain adult Medicaid recipients, his administration isn't pursuing such a mandate, backpedaling on an idea struck down in other states by a federal judge.


Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23078 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:27 pm to
Not to mention the huge influx of federal dollars into Louisiana as a result of the Medicaid expansion that, otherwise, would not have come into the state.

LINK

This study done by LSU breaks down the overall economic impact of Louisiana accepting the Medicaid expansion. It says as of fiscal year 2017, Louisiana has received $1.85 billion in federal money that we otherwise would not have gotten.

quote:

The federal injection of just $1.85 billion created and supported almost 19,200 jobs, state tax receipts of just over $103 million, and local tax receipts of $74.6 million.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:27 pm to
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We literally have working folks with good steady paying jobs who already have good private insurance and they're dropping it for "free" government health care insurance with this medicaid expansion.


So for a family of 1, to qualify for coverage, your income must be less than $16,764. Assuming a 2,000 hour work year, that's just over $8 an hour. How many people making $8 an hour are getting employer coverage?

Even for a family of 4, the income limit is $34,644. If you are a single parent with 3 kids and making that, odds are even if you are offered insurance at work, it probably costs a frick ton.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23078 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:28 pm to
Ohhh gotcha, nice find.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45154 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:28 pm to
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It's all the children. Getting a "medical card" for a kid is pretty easy.


I used to work with a guy that would work as a contractor rather than go on company time just because was able to keep his kids on SNAP and didn't have to pay for their insurance. He actually quit the job once because the company was doing away with contractors and was forcing him to hire directly on. These are the people they should be going after and not the working family who may be a few hundred dollars above the limit each month. I am more supportive of helping someone who is barely scratching by but is working their arse off to provide for their family than these leaches who refuse to work or constantly play the system.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422689 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:29 pm to
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Ohhh gotcha, nice find.

if it did go up for a vote, it probably got coordinated extras added that made it unpallatable. that's how you kill bills you only publicly support. when i was looking for the vote, i saw that story from april
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:30 pm to
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My experience in a BR emergency room was an eye opener


me too. sat that with my wife and kid till 4 am (got there at 7pm) because it was full of "those people"
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45154 posts
Posted on 7/23/19 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

So for a family of 1, to qualify for coverage, your income must be less than $16,764. Assuming a 2,000 hour work year, that's just over $8 an hour. How many people making $8 an hour are getting employer coverage?

Even for a family of 4, the income limit is $34,644. If you are a single parent with 3 kids and making that, odds are even if you are offered insurance at work, it probably costs a frick ton.


IMO these are the people I am 100% for helping. Not these leaches who work the system and don't try to help themselves.
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