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re: Radioactive spike reported in Ukraine

Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by Pechon
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:13 pm to
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2nd grade breakdown my man, so what are you saying was blown up.


A really inert alloy of uranium that has less U235 than occurring in nature and cannot make nuclear boom which would give off gamma rays (and a shite ton more than 40 nanosieverts, you get 2000 nanosieverts/hr flying commercial). If it burns, it makes poisonous ash everywhere but doesn't turn it into a nuclear wasteland.



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This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 7:22 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:13 pm to
Tank rounds are DU.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
28360 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:19 pm to
The all night rave parties at the nightclubs in Ukraine should be off the hook now with all of this excessive radioactive stuff in the air.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17975 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:22 pm to
The upward shockwave of the second explosion (around 0:17 mark) is interesting. Anything to that, or is it simply because nothing was above the first explosion when it happened?

Nukes are way above my pay grade.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 7:23 pm
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:25 pm to
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A really inert alloy of uranium that has less U235 than occurring in nature and cannot make nuclear boom which would give off gamma rays (and a shite ton more than 40 nanosieverts, you get 2000 nanosieverts/hr flying commercial). Only burns and makes poisonous ash everywhere.



So, where would we dispose of them here in the States? Could we send them to your local dump, or would they require special disposal and containment protocols?

Not in my back yard?

ETA; I don't it is all that dangerous as a substance, unless inhaling the dust or fumes.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37383 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:41 pm to
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That's what we call a dirty bomb

No, it isn’t.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:44 pm to
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Why would Britain send DU munitions to Ukraine?


Are you a scientist? Depleted uranium is just that. Depleted. You know the A-10 Warthog canon Brrrrt? That's depleted uranium. It's not radioactive and it's very dense. Can you imagine why a very dense material is good for a projectile?
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:55 pm to
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Depleted uranium is just that. Depleted. You know the A-10 Warthog canon Brrrrt? That's depleted uranium. It's not radioactive and it's very dense. Can you imagine why a very dense material is good for a projectile?


All true but depleted from what process and just how "depleted" does it have to be to meet the requirements?

If we had the same remnants around here, there would be a bunch of guys in Tyvek suits picking it all up.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:56 pm to
I can’t imagine what it was like to live in that city - this feels nuke-ish
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24035 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:02 pm to
A fission reactor. The end product at the tail end off the enrichment process. They separate out the hot stuff into an enriched (fissionable pile) and a non fissile (depleted pile). People handle DU with bare hands. You know you can search for this and it turns up on Wikipedia.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:11 pm to
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People handle DU with bare hands. You know you can search for this and it turns up on Wikipedia.


Yessir. I have years of experience in the industry. You can do the same with Beryllium.

"Google" it,
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:11 pm to
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People handle DU with bare hands. You know you can search for this and it turns up on Wikipedia.


This

If DU was giving off gamma rays I don't think we'd have any tank crewmembers left
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:29 pm to
Depleted uranium may pose a risk to both soldiers and local civilian populations. When ammunition made from depleted uranium strikes a target, the uranium turns into dust that is inhaled by soldiers near the explosion site. The wind then carries dust to surrounding areas, polluting local water and agriculture.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8690 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:34 pm to
Someone loaned some tactical nukes to Ukrainians and said nukes just got wasted
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 8:39 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35965 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:55 pm to
BREAKING NEWS: site in Ukraine of massive explosion was a children's hospital / orphanage. Evidence points to Russian Tactical nuke!
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Depleted uranium may pose a risk to both soldiers and local civilian populations. When ammunition made from depleted uranium strikes a target, the uranium turns into dust that is inhaled by soldiers near the explosion site. The wind then carries dust to surrounding areas, polluting local water and agriculture.


That still doesn't explain the gamma spike
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15794 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:07 pm to
Dumbass, that doesn't do anything of the like.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47322 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:39 pm to
Fret not. The adults are in charge in D.C.




Joe's got this.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:17 am to
All I can say is that was 2 absolutely huge explosions with each producing a nice mushroom cloud.
Posted by eiasjsf
Ellensburg, Washington
Member since Sep 2009
525 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:39 am to
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ETA: Apparently DU rounds ignite when exposed to oxygen. (Someone please fact check me on this if I'm wrong). So maybe the spiked levels could in fact be purely due to the DU rounds. Fascinating.


It does have an incendiary effect but I think it has to be more than just exposed to oxygen. This actually reminded me of a video I saw recently where a guy got a hold of a couple DU 7.62 rounds and fired them from a rifle.

Shooting Depleted Uranium rounds - DUDS 7.62x51mm (Youtube)
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