re: Radical protesters are now invading the homes of our heroic ICE agents and their families,

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My friend, do you know the average lag time between an unlawful detention and some type of “confirmation” that said unlawful detention was indeed just that?

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Unquestionably shorter than normal law enforcement

This is a political hot button. People are poring over every detail of every interaction.

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Yes completely unsupported.

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The post you are responding to provides support, wtf?

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historical rate of unlawful detention in the control LEO group

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Less than 1% of officers are reported for misconduct in a given year

AI on wrongful detention rates:

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Wrongful Detention Incidents: A study focusing on wrongful detention by state actors since 2001 found that at least 139 Americans were affected, with the average rising from 2.5 per year (2001-2010) to over 10 per year (2012-2021).

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You need reasonable suspicion of criminal activity

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Except that's not what it said, is it?

It said criminal activity OR not being here legally. It specifically said that.

That's the part you disagree with, so that's the important part. Everything else everyone agrees on.

So again, prove it wrong.

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I’m not maligning AI, I’m maligning you.

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Then you're an even bigger idiot than I thought. All I did is type in, "Can federal immigration officers detain non citizens on suspicion of not having legal status to be here?" And the answer was yes, and it specified the addition to what you keep claiming (with no substantiation of it.)

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I never once said anything ICE is doing is illegal. I simply made the correct legal assertion of what is minimally necessary to detain someone in the US.

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bullshite. You claimed it to 808. That's what started the whole discussion.
You know what? You're a fricking moron.

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AI is notoriously unreliable and often wrong.

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O.k.

What was it wrong about in this case?

Nothing? That's what I thought.

Shut the frick up.

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Except that's not what it said, is it? It said criminal activity OR not being here legally. It specifically said that. That's the part you disagree with, so that's the important part. Everything else everyone agrees on.

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I do not “disagree” with it. I called it redundant. Can you look up what that word means if you are unfamiliar.

I will try to break this down for you one more time.

Do you consider unlawful presence in the US by a foreigner to constitute criminal activity? I do.

If you agree, then the statement “reasonable articulable suspicion of criminal activity or unlawful presence” is redundant because the former includes the latter. Got it? Good. Let’s move on.

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"Can federal immigration officers detain non citizens on suspicion of not having legal status to be here?" And the answer was yes,

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Of course it’s yes! It’s criminal activity!

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bullshite. You claimed it to 808

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Oh I did? Post where I claim what ICE is doing is illegal? Shouldn’t be too hard to find, no?

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You know what? You're a fricking moron.

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It’s sad you can’t argue without getting emotional. You should try a mood stabilizer

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There you go again with your unsupported theories.

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Sure bud. . .

You are just arguing non-points for the sake of it.

He posted this "source" spreadsheet from an ICE database with the hope no one would open it and see that his numbers have no merit. Unfortunately for him, several posters have investigated and called out his BS but have yet to get a legitimate rebuttal.

ICE Spreadsheet

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Before what exactly?

ETA: 9% of those detained have a violent criminal record. 86% of those detained have no criminal record.

Shouldn't they be going after the rapists and murderers?

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They should be going after anyone who is here illegally.

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Agreed. I just don't agree with the tactics used.

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the tactics are only necessary in Sanctuary places.

None of this would be happening, if ICE were allowed to scoop them up after hearings and criminal proceedings. . .or into the prisons.

But they can't, so they have to be on the street. The street, obviously, is not controlled and very unpredictable.

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The Democrats want it to be done this way. Blame them

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Everything is the Democrats fault. Trump has taught you well.

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Everything is the Democrats fault. Trump has taught you well.



Why are you implying that the sanctuary cities ARE cooperating with ICE? Because if they were, none of this would be happening

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Because nobody wants the Gestapo wreaking havoc on their city. That needs to stop now and I'm glad to see that there are Americans still willing to fight for freedom. Much like those on J6.