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re: Racist NYT Editor Sarah Jeong forgets the constitution

Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26267 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:47 pm to
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A long winded way of saying people prefer mob rule.

Hell yeah

If the citizens of California want it, then the citizens of Wyoming, Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, West Virginia, Idaho, Nebraska, New Mexico, Nevada, Kansas, Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Utah, Iowa, Oklahoma, and Kentucky need to just get over themselves.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:47 pm to
Can't fix STUPID
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26653 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:48 pm to
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That was amended eventually, because people recognized it wasn't as democratic as it could be.


Pure democracy is an unmitigated disaester. Anyone advocating for it is either young and too naive, or an uneducated fool.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32363 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:50 pm to
Sarah? How bout me? I would search bicameral and then look for "upper house"
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:50 pm to
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That was amended eventually, because people recognized it wasn't as democratic as it could be.


That's fricking false too.

Holy shite you leftists are fricking stupid
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4938 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:54 pm to
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Pure democracy is an unmitigated disaester. Anyone advocating for it is either young and too naive, or an uneducated fool.


Except that's not advocating for pure democracy. It's advocating for changing how the legislature in our republic is set up.
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4938 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:55 pm to
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quote:

That was amended eventually, because people recognized it wasn't as democratic as it could be.



That's fricking false too.


Oh okay. Why did we change to elected senators? I'm all ears.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26653 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:59 pm to
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Except that's not advocating for pure democracy. It's advocating for changing how the legislature in our republic is set up.


By eliminating the one facet of our legislature that prevents a complete devolution into pure democracy, sure. Do you not see how and why the system is structured the way it is? It is done this way to TEMPER the will of the majority, not mirror it. By design. Broad consensus is the benchmark for policy in this country, not 50% plus 1.

To advocate for changing that is to argue for a complete overhaul of what makes the US what it is.

You very clearly do not understand the concept of federalism, or dual sovereignty. You need to have a talk with a guy named Publius.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 4:01 pm
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18107 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:00 pm to
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Why did we change to elected senators?

One of the worst mistakes this country ever made.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26653 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:03 pm to
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One of the worst mistakes this country ever made.


It’s certainly one of the most short sighted.
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4938 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:12 pm to
Oh, so to you it's the first step down a slippery slope towards pure democracy? You're jumping all over the place here. I do see why it's the way it is. I even referenced it in one of my first posts...
The 17th amendment was also a big change. Are you against that since it overhauled the original design? Or maybe this is an appeal to tradition (that you only selectively choose to use)?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26653 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Oh, so to you it's the first step down a slippery slope towards pure democracy?


Converting the Senate to the same model as the House, and thereby making both houses proportional to the states populations... would be about as close to pure democracy as a country our size could get. Hence my use of the term. But I do understand that it’s not “pure democracy”
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he 17th amendment was also a big change. Are you against that since it overhauled the original design?


Absolutely against. Horribly short sighted and has completed ruined the Senate’s purpose. as well as greatly diminished the role of the state legislatures. The latter point leads to huge levels of voter apathy at the state house level, which in turn begets terrible candidates, and terrible policy, etc.

It was well intentioned but not well thought out

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(that you only selectively choose to use)?


Where have I been selective? I’m about as originality as you’ll find on the Constitution, outside of some of the obviously needed update that have come via amendment . Have I indicated otherwise?

ETA: don’t lump me in with gun rights ideolouges, because I’m not one
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 4:26 pm
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22776 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:25 pm to
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It was a compromise that was necessary to form a u ion. Just because something was necessary to form a government doesn't mean it should be kept in perpetuity


That's fair. If the compromise to form the union can legally be eliminated, than so can the union. Secession by the underrepresented would be the logical next step when equal representation is undermined, wouldn't it?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:26 pm to
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but it's hilarious to me how smugly some are scoffing about the idea as if it wouldn't result in more equal representation

Equal Representation, or as Democrats really mean, New York and California dictating the entire country.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82265 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:27 pm to
Its all that white cock she took last night. Bitch was drunk off the white man and woke up feeling guilty.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 4:28 pm
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
10193 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:30 pm to
Sarah Jeong is such an ignorant and hateful THOT
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27733 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:52 pm to
She's stupid.....very stupid.

Honey, dollface, sweety, every state has the same amount of Senators.......#@blessyourheart !!!!!!!!
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59759 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:54 pm to
They are hateful. This different levels to their hate.

And we cant stop winning since 2016. It's really killing them
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16326 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 4:57 pm to
I'm just sitting here drinking a beer thinking about how female Asians compose 2% of the population but account for 24% of all car accidennts. Hbu?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57392 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 5:44 pm to
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good morning! just sitting here drinking coffee and thinking about how the state of wyoming has two senators and a total population smaller than portland, oregon. hbu?
So not only is she a man-hating bigot... she’s proudly ignorant of the nation’s founding

I still can’t figure out why she still has a job.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 5:45 pm
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