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Race matters by Cornell West, here is a quote from his book

Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:31 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:31 pm
"In these downbeat times, we need as much hope and courage as we do vision and analysis; we must accent the best of each other even as we point out the vicious effects of our racial divide and pernicious consequences of our maldistribution of wealth and power. We simply cannot enter the twenty-first century at each other's throats, even as we acknowledge the weighty forces of racism, patriarchy, economic inequality, homophobia, and ecological abuse on our necks. We are at a crucial crossroad in the history of this nation--and we either hang together by combating these forces that divide and degrade us or we hang separately. Do we have the intelligence, humor, imagination, courage, tolerance, love, respect, and will to meet the challenge? Time will tell. None of us alone can save the nation or world. But each of us can make a positive difference if we commit ourselves to do so."

Cornel West, Race Matters


A christian brother posted this on social media, (Clearly he's a progressive type thinker) I didn't reply to it, but I thought the PT might enjoy discussing the author's quote.

I am all for staying positive and working to to get along but how do we combat the masses being fed by this media of ours?

Anytime I have a discussion with a progressive, they are first to escalate things to foul language and insults.

Love, love love and tolerance... yeah, it's practice so often by people who reject Jesus...
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:33 pm to
Cornel West isn’t awful except when he is. But I view him as being more intellectually honest than the current Democratic Presidential Candidates.

I think that people who make their living talking about race aren’t ever going to see improvement. Because improvement means they’re out of a job.
Posted by Pdubntrub
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:35 pm to
I could not care less about race
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

I think that people who make their living talking about race aren’t ever going to see improvement.


Rarely, if ever, is there a stated end-state for racial harmony.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:37 pm to
A long time ago there was this guy who dreamed of a future where race did not matter.

Guess he was wrong.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:38 pm to
so when he says "us"...do you think he means us as in all Americans, or is he speaking to black people?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:39 pm to
It's hard to say we all need to come together when you regurgitate the same progressive boogeymen in the same statement
Posted by stuntman
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

None of us alone can save the nation or world. But each of us can make a positive difference if we commit ourselves to do so.


I agree w/ this.

Hell, you don't even have to be proactive to make a positive difference. Just follow the Golden Rule. You can be a hermit and have a positive affect on society.

If he was serious, though, he would be promoting individualism, not the cancer known as collectivism.



Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

maldistribution of wealth and power. 

Yeah! frick people who work their asses off their whole lives
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

maldistribution of wealth and power.
Yeah! frick people who work their asses off their whole lives


There’s never been a time in recorded history when there was equality of wealth and power, anywhere. There have always been haves and have-nots. So what’s different now? Well, we have marxist agitators now.

And if he’s a Christian, he should know that we’ll always have poor people.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 7:04 pm
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:00 pm to
Cool quote

He's in no moral position to pontificate
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:01 pm to
Any reference to "patriarchy" by a Christian man is pure soy.

"Patriarchy" is just another word for "civilization".
Posted by OnTheLevel State Fan
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:06 pm to
This whole country needs what John Prine sang about in Spanish Pipedream
Posted by wmr
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:33 pm to
The average Ashkenazi Jew has an IQ of 107-117.

The average Somali person has an IQ in the high 60s to low 70s.

If you had a society comprised of just those two people groups, would there be a wealth disparity?

Whose fault would it be?

How would "social justice" remedy the inequalities in that society?

Now, apply that to America.

Thanks.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:41 pm to
He wants us to all come together to destroy America and the American way of life. That's what I got from reading that excerpt.

quote:

We simply cannot enter the twenty-first century at each other's throats, even as we acknowledge the weighty forces of racism, patriarchy, economic inequality, homophobia, and ecological abuse on our necks.


None of the embolden events are actually occurring except for those who only see the world through the lens of a victim.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

The average Ashkenazi Jew has an IQ of 107-117.

The average Somali person has an IQ in the high 60s to low 70s.

If you had a society comprised of just those two people groups, would there be a wealth disparity?

Whose fault would it be?

How would "social justice" remedy the inequalities in that society?

Now, apply that to America.

Thanks.


Isn't IQ a result of education or lack thereof?

I believe all humans are capable of "being smart"...but each person is unique...just fine in the eyes of God

I don't think race matters though we sure like to put people in groups...
Posted by wmr
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Isn't IQ a result of education or lack thereof?


No, it isn't. Most studies say it is largely inherited. Recent studies suggest intelligence is a 80-90% heritable trait. Google if you'd like to see links.



Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:28 pm to
West was recently on JRE, I recommend giving it a listen. He’s def a progressive, def a socialist, but he’s not shrill and he’s not dumb...he’s an interesting character to say the least.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 9:09 am
Posted by ApexTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:40 am to
quote:

West was recently on JRE, I recommend giving him a lesson. He’s def a progressive, def a socialist, but he’s not shrill and he’s not dumb...he’s an interesting character to say the least.



oh yes, I've heard him speak before, he's a mega intellect, a great orator.

But he seems somewhat angry, and when you get right down to it, he's all about group versus individual...

bird of a feather flock together, yet we still try to reach this new found territory where we all get along and find a lot in common.

we all bleed the same color of blood, made in God's image but we are so much different culturally...

why isn't that ok?

why is not ok to be white anymore?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:53 am to
CW is a racist that banks on faux racism.
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