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re: Question to libs about prexisting conditions and high risk
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:26 pm to CelticDog
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:26 pm to CelticDog
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You adilescent freedom lovers are fine making me pay taxes for war materials instead of free college and free meducal.
You could use free college apparently.
I appreciate that you are another open socialist.
Again, you are free to cooperate without the coercion from your mommy. No one is stopping you from sharing. Why don't you is the next question that you should consider?
If you see a problem and you and like-minded people have the ability to solve it yet you don't is very telling.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 2:32 pm
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:42 pm to CelticDog
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You adolescent freedom lovers are fine making me pay taxes for war materials instead of free college and free medical.
You can't be being serious...
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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oh
my
good
lord
that's the level of discourse on this subject that i expect out of middle school children
As opposed to "you should be on your own", which is what I was replying to? That's pretty much this...
quote:
every-man-for-himself anarchy like prehistoric humans had and wild animals still have.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:52 pm to Nuts4LSU
I'd just like to add to this discussion that there seems to be a issue with people not separating the "right to healthcare" and the "right to cheap healthcare".
The first should be a right, the latter not so much.
The first should be a right, the latter not so much.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:03 pm to roadGator
quote:What's funny is so often the same people making hte emotional pleas are the ones that cry "corporations aren't people!" Yet they expect those corporations to make financial decisions based on caring and compassionate emotional personas.
Emotional pleas and declarations of fairness are no way to make decisions for the vast majority of people in this country.
quote:PECs exlusons were a small minority. People hear the horror stories not realizing that they don't apply to employer-based plans.
The overwhelming majority are not affected by PEC clauses but the progs are using PECs to create fear and confusion to get their way.
And further, pre-Obamacare one could still get coverages for everything other than PECs relatively cheap. Say you had a... neck injury... that was excluded from your current policy. BUT... Your policy would still covered you for liver cancer, a broken leg, and the like at actuarial-based (ie, cheap!) rates. That was a reasonable transaction for both participants. Of course, that's gone now, and we're bearing the burden across the board for it.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:06 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Letting people die
why do people make the presumption that freedom from government = "letting people die". It's pathetic. If you knew someone that needed help.. would you help them or simply let them die? Would the only way you'd help them is if the government forced you by threat to help them?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:07 pm to Nuts4LSU
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One price of civilization is pooling resources for the common good.
No! 
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't believe that goverment should be involved in health care
It's involved in health care. It will never not be involved in health care.
It would be helpful to the discussion if you lived in reality instead of your fantasy world where thinking the free market is best for health care is not a Republican idea.
Your plan would cause people to die unnecessarily as the costs of health care eclipsed your 1% annual increase.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:10 pm to CelticDog
quote:Nope.
Adolescents want freedom from daddy.
Adults cooperate.
Adolescents depend on daddy to provide their needs.
Adults provide for their own needs.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:22 pm to Taxing Authority
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why do people make the presumption that freedom from government = "letting people die". It's pathetic.
Because in this case, there's no viable alternative to a health care system than government involvement. Stripping away all government assistance from health care is saying people who are sick and cannot afford to pay should die.
That you refuse to believe that speaks to your own ability to lie to yourself as to your morals on this issue.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:41 pm to BamaAtl
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That you refuse to believe that speaks to your own ability to lie to yourself as to your morals on this issue.
You're the biggest liar and most morally corrupt poster on this entire board.
And your religious zealotry that revolves around increasing government power makes a Branch Dividian look absolutely sane.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:44 pm to BamaAtl
quote:False.
Because in this case, there's no viable alternative to a health care system than government involvement.
quote:False.
Stripping away all government assistance from health care is saying people who are sick and cannot afford to pay should die.
quote:False. Mandated mooching isn't a virtue.
That you refuse to believe that speaks to your own ability to lie to yourself as to your morals on this issue.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:45 pm to Taxing Authority
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Mandated mooching isn't a virtue.
It is when you're a mooch yourself
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:50 pm to Centinel
Troof!
Posted on 9/21/17 at 6:28 pm to roadGator
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I've never had an auto insurance claim. If I cause three accidents in three months do you think the insurance company should not be able to charge me more because of the new risk I've presented?
non sequitur if you're comparing to health insurance.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:08 pm to VOR
Not at all.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:22 pm to Taxing Authority
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False.
True.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:22 pm to Centinel
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Centinel
Unlike you, champ, I've never lied on here. No need when you have numbers on your side.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:42 pm to BamaAtl
You lie many times. I've pointed out several of the many today. Go back and re-read.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 7:43 pm to roadGator
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You lie many times
I've never lied. Once again, that you don't live in reality doesn't make my saying 2+2=4 a lie.
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